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No you do not understand. Being attractive is not a problem. Attractiveness being more important than all else is. We start this training early. The first thing someone says to a little girl "look how pretty you are" or "what a nice outfit you have on."
Exactly. The documentary makes the point that appearance is what girls are told matters most about themselves, and boys are told that it's what matters most about girls. You see it on this board, which is ostensibly about fashion, skincare, and haircare, but often gets taken over by guys posting pictures of women they think are hot.
The modeling industry has nothing to do with this. Objectifying women is institutionalized in our culture.
We have reduced women to a single dimension. Boring attractive is the most important thing you can be. And that is the problem.
Fashion industry is by far the worst offender, it's pretty hard to deny that. Think about it, the majority of the time you see ads that use models in a vulgar manner, are going to be in fashion magazines targeted towards women. The fashion industry isn't going to change anytime soon but it has gotten better at including more women of color(although they still have a long way to go). I remember even reading about a fashion show that had plus size models.
In regards to your other point, studies have shown that both men and women are more likely to get hired for being attractive. Although hiring managers do heavily favor white men versus women/minorities, appearance isn't only an issue for women unfortunately. To be honest with you this is hard issue to tackle. There will always be people out there who instead of trying to criticize someone like Hilary Clinton or Chris Christie for their policies, will take the easy way out and attack them for their weight/looks. A lot more self awareness and training needs to be implemented to prevent this from being a common issue.
Exactly. The documentary makes the point that appearance is what girls are told matters most about themselves, and boys are told that it's what matters most about girls. You see it on this board, which is ostensibly about fashion, skincare, and haircare, but often gets taken over by guys posting pictures of women they think are hot.
Ah, we women are our own worst enemies .
Good comment:
Btw this right here is the argument against feminism: "Ask them if they believe that women are less intelligent than men. Ask them if they believe women are incapable of making their own decisions. After they answer "no" to both, ask them when then, they believe that all the choices that women make are because of men."
We need to teach our girls to think for themselves and not base their self worth on air brushed models. We play a role fueling this, it's time we band together to stop it. I remember a German magazine stopped air brushing models and started to use more beautiful everyday women along with models in their issues. It would awesome if every magazine could do that.
These ads prey on insecurity, you always have to keep that mind when look at them. Don't let them get the better of you.
The documentary makes the point that appearance is what girls are told matters most about themselves, and boys are told that it's what matters most about girls.
They are told this by marketeers who are selling fashion and makeup! Exclusively! They aren't getting this in school, and they aren't getting it in their careers. You act like this is some universal cultural meme, but it is nothing but marketing that preys on millenia old habits. You can simply choose to avoid or ignore the ads (which I do).
Maybe you should pay more attention, ads mirror what we think in real life. I have heard way too many comments over the years about the attractiveness of female applicants in basic office jobs in non-appearance focused industries.
First, ads are predatory. They try to make you insecure and dissatisfied. Or they prey on desires. They are not a reflection of "what we think". It just means we are susceptible. It's all BS.
I can't stress this enough... just say no. Get rid of the TV because it's the worst. The issue here is that we are bombarded constantly by subliminal advertising. Why do we let that crap in?
Appearance matters in nearly any job. Fat and ugly people have always had a strike against them, and always will. It's a minor consideration for most jobs though, and is far outweighed by other things like competence and a good personality.
They are told this by marketeers who are selling fashion and makeup! Exclusively!
But not exclusively. These issue bleed in from everywhere, and they existed long before mass media was even a thing. Think how many parents and teachers shrug and say, "boys will be boys" when boys play rough, but little girls get told not to get dirty and to "stay sweet." Boys are more likely to be complemented on their abilities and girls are more likely to be complemented on their looks. Even if everyone got rid of their TVs, people pass these ideals along.
But not exclusively. These issue bleed in from everywhere, and they existed long before mass media was even a thing. Think how many parents and teachers shrug and say, "boys will be boys" when boys play rough, but little girls get told not to get dirty and to "stay sweet." Boys are more likely to be complemented on their abilities and girls are more likely to be complemented on their looks. Even if everyone got rid of their TVs, people pass these ideals along.
Well then, that means there is a deeper problem with our culture. It's not like a select few people at the top decide what people should or should not feel. We as the people make up a society and decide its rules. Is biology the answer to this problem? Ignorance? Who exactly is passing down this tradition that women should valued only for their looks. Who knows, but I think it's changing. A study actually showed that men place intelligents above looks as one of the quality traits that they look for in a mate.
Even if everyone got rid of their TVs, people pass these ideals along.
Male and female behavior patterns are very different. There is a genetic component that is much stronger than the cultural one.
Cave man days. I was reading an article in National Geographic about the earliest inhabitants of the Americas, ~15k years ago. The skeletons they've found show that nearly all men had multiple fractures (skull fractures were very common) that healed before they died. Meaning that it was a common occurrence. But the women had none. Men were considerably larger than they are now and women were smaller and more frail. I've seen similar findings from other parts of the world. Men fought each other regularly. They weren't fighting over resources and land because it was very sparsely populated. So what else... women? Aggression and sexual appetites are evolutionarily beneficial, so the behavior becomes reinforced.
Since early historical times we know that men have fought many wars to obtain resources, land, and women. The victors would kill all the men and rape and enslave the women. Women who were difficult were killed as well. Women who were old or ugly would often be killed. Women who were young and desirable and submissive might have many children. More evolutionary reinforcement.
It seems that this sort of thing has become less and less common. Slavery is no longer in vogue, but women are still being commonly raped when they are on the wrong side of war. Since it isn't a regular thing though, I believe the genetic reinforcement for male aggression and female submission is subsiding. It takes time though. And there is only so much you can do about it culturally. Culture that runs too contrary to nature makes everyone crazy and cannot survive.
Exactly. The documentary makes the point that appearance is what girls are told matters most about themselves, and boys are told that it's what matters most about girls. You see it on this board, which is ostensibly about fashion, skincare, and haircare, but often gets taken over by guys posting pictures of women they think are hot.
PEOPLE (men & women) are supposed to be judged by their attitudes and well being in general, as opposed to looks. My mom was a bit tomboyish in her earlier days. But that doesn't discount her from being a nice woman.
I am talking mainly about adds that showcase pretty women in an erotic manner. I remember around the Superbowl there was this controversy surrounding this sexy Carl jr add with some Kate Upton look alike in it. Frankly I saw the add and saw nothing wrong with it. A lot of people however were claiming it was onbjectifying women, giving men unreleastic expectation of women, etc. I saw things differently, to me it was a celebration of feminine beauty/power.
So as a women I encourage my other fellow women to start looking at these things differently. Don't view these adds as an insult to your appearance but rather a celebration of female beauty. I know that advertisement companies have a tendecy to only represent one type of female beauty, and that should change. To me black, asian, european, and hispanic women are ALL equally beautiful. You almost never hear men getting upset over David Beckham underwear adds, or claiming Abrecrombie&Fitch dehumanizes men. Its not that men are naturally less insecure then women, we women just take this stuff way too personally.
If god hated the human body who wouldn't have made us naked .
Personally I like the blond in the Viagra commercial.
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