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Old 03-13-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Jeff, it all depends on the structure of your body - and interestingly enough, it has little to do with weight - ( both for men and women by the way.) It's all about your hips, actually - whether you have low or high hips. If you have low hips, pleats will look very well, if you have high hips - you'll have to stick to "no pleats" pants.

This is an example for women, but same rule goes for men.

http://www.insideoutstyleblog.com/wp.../11/X-vs-8.jpg
And whether you're wearing your pants at your hip or waist. Suits still tend to be worn at the waist whereas most other pants are worn at the hip. Hence why pleats in suits are still fairly common versus almost completely gone from everything else.
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I look gross in pleat front trousers... but have you noticed how difficult it is now to find nice straight cut trousers.. all the ones in the shops are so tight.. and Ive had to buy this type when I feel more comfy at my age in slightly looser types.. I also think they look more dressy than the tighter ones..
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Can we all agree that pleats in pants (particularly men's pants) are awful?
Nope- it'd be nice to see grown-up men wearing a nice pair of slacks (and corresponding shirt/shoes) instead of the everpresent ratty old jeans.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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Nope- it'd be nice to see grown-up men wearing a nice pair of slacks (and corresponding shirt/shoes) instead of the everpresent ratty old jeans.
Slacks don't have to have pleats.
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Old 03-13-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Slacks don't have to have pleats.
That's true, but they do look nice.
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Old 03-13-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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Actually, pleats are not flattering on anyone overweight, unless they are inverted box pleats (which aren't common on men's pants). Pleats add bulk. Properly tailored flat front are more flattering.
Yes, a $500 pair of hand-tailored flat front pants will look better than a $20 pair of pleated pants from Walmart. Point taken.
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Old 03-13-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Lake Oswego, Manhattan, Aspen
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Here is what Andy, Himself, says about pleated trousers. I concur. Dress Trousers: Flat Front or Pleated?

Right before we moved up here, at the onset of the Obama Depression, when few had any money to spend on anything, I was at the shop of the best tailor in our state. He's a displaced Salvadorian aristocrat, with a staff who were turning out a product which was definitely 'nonpareil'. Our Decorator found him, and was qvelling over the quality of the sleeve-lengthening done to accommodate his long Sephardic arms, "Gloria, the sleeves look better than when they first left Stefano Ricci!". I had growing boys, and a growing husband, whose lats were growing ever more cobra-like, and whose deltoids and traps kept-on-a-growin', too. Who else could I trust to endlessly refit our hard-won collection of Oxxford, Brioni, and Kiton?

I was in that shop enough to be repeatedly glowered-at by another frequent client, the doubly-bitter former trophy wife of the secretly-Gay scion of a Department store dynasty (a chain which they'd recently had to sell, naturally -tee hee!). The second time she turned her blonde bunnyrabbit nose up at me, I was so tempted to ask her if it was "real or rhino". But I didn't. My daughter might want into the Junior League, soon, and I needed no enemies.

But I digress. One day, my son was being fitted, and I spotted a whole slough of beautiful new bespoke trousers - maybe ten pairs, hanging on a big hook, waiting for pickup. "I love these triple reverse pleats! And they've got Hollywood Waists! And look at tat 'v' at the back! Who?" The Tailor didn't say who, but as we were leaving, there was a gorgeous new Bentley in the fire lane, and the most important attorney in our whole state was hanging those trousers in his car.

This is a man whose family's ascendancy goes back to the Norman Conquest, who built possibly the most iconic mansion of America's entire Antebellum Period (http://www.newsouthernview.com/image..._engraving.jpg and http://for-natchez.org/contemporary_.../Longwood6.jpg ), and who were smart enough to keep their mansion and lands through a series of upheavals which left less capable families destitute. His competency and financial acumen have brought him to the point where he now simply analyses and finances large cases for other law firms - basically, a private banker for elite attorneys. His gorgeous, kind, super-smart wife is the former wife of one of the then-richest men in the world.

Pleats - big pleats, and plenty of 'em - are good enough for very stylish men at the very top: rich, powerful, competent men with ancient pedigrees.

As for us, the upstarts, the men in my family are simply too well-endowed to look decent in flat-fronts. They have un-aristocratically narrow pelvises, and so could look good in flat-fronts (as opposed to more evolved men with wider pelvic bones, who NEED pleats) "If there are cameras running, and I'm wearing flat-fronts, then I'm doing porn. Fully-dressed, and I'm doin' porn.", is how my husband puts it. He will wear flat fronts (paired with silk boxers), when he wants to distract others during negotiations. They're so busy trying to sneak peeks (particularly the menfolk, who really, really, really can't afford to get caught), that they forget to adequately scrutinize where the periods and commas are. DH only has three suits with flat-front trousers, though.

But back to men who NEED pleats, in order to look good. May I introduce the concept of 'Flou'? Flou is when fabric floats, apart from the body. For us girls, 'flou' can come in the form of a very full skirt with abundant petticoats - or from puffy sleeves https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...e9097b7c88.jpg . For men, 'Flou' is found in a pair of properly-stacking cowboy-pressed jeans, the fabric held away from the body by cowboy boots - implying huge calf muscles. A starched western shirt (a flattering one) provides 'flou', by standing apart from the body, making a man's back and shoulders and biceps look bigger (thereby making his stomach and pelvis look smaller).

Cargo pants have Flou in abundance. They minimize the pelvis, by making the legs look bigger. Skinny jeans have no Flou at all, and thus make men's hips look as bulbous and ugly as women's. Flat-front suit pants are nearly as bad.

Different people have different builds. They should be free to dress in cuts appropriate for their own bodies. And that's just as true for men as it is for women.
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Old 03-13-2015, 05:01 PM
 
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Yes, a $500 pair of hand-tailored flat front pants will look better than a $20 pair of pleated pants from Walmart. Point taken.
Who said anything about $500 or hand-tailored? Exaggerate much?
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:22 PM
 
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Who said anything about $500 or hand-tailored? Exaggerate much?
"Properly tailored" certainly doesn't mean off the rack, does it? What kind of tailoring isn't hand tailoring? Not everyone has a tailor on retainer, I was estimating the cost of these "properly tailored" pants in the Hamptons. You don't expect the tailor to travel to your house for free, do you?
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Old 03-13-2015, 06:49 PM
 
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"Properly tailored" certainly doesn't mean off the rack, does it? What kind of tailoring isn't hand tailoring? Not everyone has a tailor on retainer, I was estimating the cost of these "properly tailored" pants in the Hamptons. You don't expect the tailor to travel to your house for free, do you?
What??? Nothing about this makes sense.

I sincerely hope you're joking.
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