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Old 03-28-2015, 09:43 PM
 
Location: The World
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Originally Posted by VAGeek View Post
Count me among the millions of attractive, successful men that prefer a more natural look.

I am not, nor have I ever been, attracted to women that LOOK like they spend hours in the bathroom fussing with their makeup, lashes, and nails, to put on what is essentially a mask. I consciously and unconsciously perceive these women as less honest / trustworthy, because the woman wearing the mask is not the same woman I would see each morning and evening, if we were to live together.

What I find most unattractive about the LOOK is what it implies about the woman's priorities. If a woman is spending hours in the bathroom fussing with her makeup or nails, then those are hours she won't be doing more important things, such as reading, bettering herself (i.e., learning new things), working out to stay healthy, helping to plan trips or activities, or interacting with future kids.

As someone who is successful, I consider time to be my most limited and most valuable asset. I don't want to waste my time on trivial nonsense, nor do I want my significant other to waste her time (or my time) on trivial nonsense. To me, an attractive woman is a woman that has her "head on straight" and knows what is important and what is not, as far as her time goes. To me, a woman who spends a significant amount of her time on makeup is not a woman that has her priorities straight.

I admit, in my younger, more superficial days, I found women with magazine-esque makeup to be alluring for a night or three. But even then, I never saw such women as being long-term relationship material. Simply put, if a woman looks like she might spend more time on makeup than helping her future kids with homework, then she is not long-term relationship material.
So, women waste time putting on makeup, but I suppose you aren't wasting time writing long diatribes about women and their makeup on C-D? lol.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Women can only tell men they are self-centered idiots for thinking the world revolves around them and their preferences.

What men do with that knowledge is up to them.
Translation: Men don't get to have an opinion about anything without catching crap for it.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Originally Posted by VAGeek View Post
Count me among the millions of attractive, successful men that prefer a more natural look.

I am not, nor have I ever been, attracted to women that LOOK like they spend hours in the bathroom fussing with their makeup, lashes, and nails, to put on what is essentially a mask. I consciously and unconsciously perceive these women as less honest / trustworthy, because the woman wearing the mask is not the same woman I would see each morning and evening, if we were to live together.

What I find most unattractive about the LOOK is what it implies about the woman's priorities. If a woman is spending hours in the bathroom fussing with her makeup or nails, then those are hours she won't be doing more important things, such as reading, bettering herself (i.e., learning new things), working out to stay healthy, helping to plan trips or activities, or interacting with future kids.

As someone who is successful, I consider time to be my most limited and most valuable asset. I don't want to waste my time on trivial nonsense, nor do I want my significant other to waste her time (or my time) on trivial nonsense. To me, an attractive woman is a woman that has her "head on straight" and knows what is important and what is not, as far as her time goes. To me, a woman who spends a significant amount of her time on makeup is not a woman that has her priorities straight.

I admit, in my younger, more superficial days, I found women with magazine-esque makeup to be alluring for a night or three. But even then, I never saw such women as being long-term relationship material. Simply put, if a woman looks like she might spend more time on makeup than helping her future kids with homework, then she is not long-term relationship material.
Of course you have your criteria as to your preferences in appearance no argument there, but this last part made me pause. How do you know how much time a woman spends applying her makeup just by looking at her? Or do you sneak a peek outside her bathroom window with a stopwatch and time her?

The reason I ask is because I know many women who wear a good amount of makeup who can apply it in a very short amount. It takes them less time than some men take shaving, putting products in their hair, trimming beards, fussing with clothes etc.

I don't really think that has anything to do with helping kids with homework. That's a pretty lame comparison but for the sake of argument lets make that comparison. How much time would a dad spend helping his kids with homework as opposed to say, watching a sports game on TV or going out with his buddies? That's usually the hours when kids do their homework in the afternoon or evenings as opposed to the time in the morning when women apply their makeup before school when the kids are assigned homework.

I find it interesting that some of the comments made by some of the men here regarding women and makeup lead me to believe they have very little experience with women in general.
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Women have been doing just fine for all these years without yours or any man's advice.

When was the last time you actually saw a woman with too much make up? A woman tries to look good and some idiots complain?

I'm an old guy but I am still impressed with a well made up woman.
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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Of course you have your criteria as to your preferences in appearance no argument there, but this last part made me pause. How do you know how much time a woman spends applying her makeup just by looking at her? Or do you sneak a peek outside her bathroom window with a stopwatch and time her?

The reason I ask is because I know many women who wear a good amount of makeup who can apply it in a very short amount. It takes them less time than some men take shaving, putting products in their hair, trimming beards, fussing with clothes etc.
As you suggest, some women may spend a significant amount of time on their "look" (even if it is a "natural look"). Other woman may spend only a few minutes on their "look." Other women roll out of bed and look great. This is not something a man could generally discern from a date.

Like any person, my preferences with respect to the opposite sex are shaped by past experiences. Growing up, I witnessed my mother spending long periods of time to put on makeup before going out. I've been in relationships with women who did not want to leave the house/apartment until they spent an hour or longer to get ready. In each case, I thought she looked great as is, an hour earlier, but no, she had to spend that hour putting on makeup (and doing whatever else). As a male, sitting around an hour waiting for a woman, to put on what I perceived to be unnecessary makeup, just to leave the house...left a bad impression. Some variation of this experience is not uncommon among men.

Unfortunately, most men (and women) have neither the time nor the patience to pursue a relationship with every potential suitor they meet. Most of us have to make quick judgments/assumptions based on past experiences. That's where stereotypes (based on past experiences) come into play.

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I don't really think that has anything to do with helping kids with homework. That's a pretty lame comparison but for the sake of argument lets make that comparison. How much time would a dad spend helping his kids with homework as opposed to say, watching a sports game on TV or going out with his buddies? That's usually the hours when kids do their homework in the afternoon or evenings as opposed to the time in the morning when women apply their makeup before school when the kids are assigned homework.
I expect it to work both ways. If a man spends large portions of their time watching sports and drinking beer with buddies, I would expect that to affect the woman's impression of the man, particularly if the man demonstrated a proclivity to engage in these activities at the expense of other activities (i.e., her: honey can we/you do this....him: sorry, no, the game is on, week after week).

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Old 03-29-2015, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Yakima WA
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Please OP don't speak for all men. I don't prefer the natural look AT ALL. The artificial look attracts me to the highest degree and the natural look is a big turn off for me. Please don't assume every man has the same tastes you do.
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Old 03-29-2015, 02:21 AM
 
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Please OP don't speak for all men. I don't prefer the natural look AT ALL. The artificial look attracts me to the highest degree and the natural look is a big turn off for me. Please don't assume every man has the same tastes you do.
Never spoke for all men. I am speaking for the majority. There are always people that go against the norm.
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Old 03-29-2015, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Thinking of this thread this morning I got out of bed and wandered into the bathroom...no mirrors early in the morning I dont do... for obvious reasons. but I took a quck look.. and laughed to myself.. my hair went in ten different directions, my face looked pale and gaunt with tired baggy eyes.. and I thought... GO GIRL... au naturalle... had a giggle and thought of putting my selfie on.. wheres the Almay...when we dont have a Dallas gal morning...hahaha
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Old 03-29-2015, 05:40 AM
 
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I have an aversion to makeup; I just didn't grow up wearing it. Now that I'm close to thirty, though, I see wrinkles and bags popping up from constant lack of sleep, so now I'm kind of wishing I knew how to wear it. I also have something like a five o'clock shadow from shaving what started out as peach fuzz on my chin because I got tired of my mom nagging me about it and recommending burning depilatory creams. I should wear makeup to cover it, but I'm afraid people would be able to tell I have it on. I do get painfully self-conscious about it at times, though.
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Old 03-29-2015, 06:28 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Thinking of this thread this morning I got out of bed and wandered into the bathroom...no mirrors early in the morning I dont do... for obvious reasons. but I took a quck look.. and laughed to myself.. my hair went in ten different directions, my face looked pale and gaunt with tired baggy eyes.. and I thought... GO GIRL... au naturalle... had a giggle and thought of putting my selfie on.. wheres the Almay...when we dont have a Dallas gal morning...hahaha
There you go! The prized natural look. I have wrinkles around my eyes and wiry dark hair to be occasionally plucked from my chin.Good thing natural is gorgeous for all women.
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