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Old 04-19-2015, 05:44 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Yeah... I think the same. I mean, the very first thing mentioned is a six figure salary... in a post about jewelry.
Salary is irrelevant, but that is what he leads with!

Overcompensation is my guess.

However, the bottom line is that he can and should wear what he wants. But he cannot control opinions of those who see him.
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Old 04-19-2015, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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My husband wears jewelry...and he looks like a Viking with a full beard and shaved head. However...he might wear one ring...his dress watch. He always has earrings (they aren't gem stone)...he has a few very nice tie tacks...they get brought out on those very rare ocassionslly he wears a tie....so jewelry on a man isn't always effeminate at all....but the OP's main issue is just too much of a good thing.
As I said it seems effeminate to me. If I saw your husband I would think "there goes an effeminate viking looking dude".
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Old 04-19-2015, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Travel between 3 cities
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I have seen brooches that are similar to that... but only on ladies (and elderly ones to boot).
Could I ask just how much experience you have evaluating men's buttoneers? From our European understanding most Americans haven't even held a man's jewel buttoneer personally. Perhaps it looks like an elderly lady's broche because that's what you're more familiar seeing.
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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The fragrances can go, and a "signature scent" would scream gay to many, as would using a term like that. Signature scent, come on that has to be a joke.
If you had been to any of the top European boarding school's you'd have had a few lessons in men's fragrances. You'd be able to differentiate between edp/edt/edc. How to pick a "signature scent" is actually something generally expected by top European boarding schools for what is defined as the "rounded" young gentlemen that they intend to produce.

Research actually shows that most American's think aftershave is a cologne? Now for European's that's the joke.

I'm asking for intelligent responses here, please
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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in a post about jewelry.
Salary is irrelevant, but that is what he leads with!

Overcompensation is my guess.

However, the bottom line is that he can and should wear what he wants. But he cannot control opinions of those who see him.
How can salary possibly be irrelevant to the discussion of jewellery. Now that's supposed to be a thoughtful opinion? Thanks' for the armchair psychology
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:08 AM
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In the same countries that it's not gay to wear a lot of jewelry it's also not gay to see two men holding hands walking down the street, could be heterosexual friends since child birth. In the USA, we have a line that is not crossed for most men, and the excess jewelry and hand holding is definitely passed this line. It's not that we have some shallow sentiment, it's just that we hold these things for women in our culture, not for other men (not unless you are homosexual).
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:16 AM
 
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MJ7 I think that your post is quite helpful. Its about a clash of cultures, definitely and I can't on a US based forum expect anything less than opinions derived from your worldviews.

The problem is that we are living in a global village and there just can't be a "cultural standard" by definition, I work in an "international practice" this means travelling to and engaging with people of many cultures and I certainly wouldn't make judgements of their personalities based on my perception of their culture.

I'm walking away from this post with the strong sense that an attempt to define jewellery as gay is simply yet another attempt to enforce American cultural standards on an international audience.
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:17 AM
 
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Wow, may I ask just when you became a board certified psychologist/psychiatrist?
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:21 AM
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MJ7 I think that your post is quite helpful. Its about a clash of cultures, definitely and I can't on a US based forum expect anything less than opinions derived from your worldviews.

The problem is that we are living in a global village and there just can't be a "cultural standard" by definition, I work in an "international practice" this means travelling to and engaging with people of many cultures and I certainly wouldn't make judgements of their personalities based on my perception of their culture.

I'm walking away from this post with the strong sense that an attempt to define jewellery as gay is simply yet another attempt to enforce American cultural standards on an international audience.
I agree that it is about culture, but that doesn't give us a right to say that someone is gay. I think the problem in the US is too many people judge. As someone that is becoming more worldly myself I find that respect for all cultures is needed, but an understanding of that culture is needed in order to give that respect. For example, in some cultures it's disrespectful to start eating food at a table that has not served everyone yet, in other countries it's seen as disrespectful to not eat when you are immediately served. The kicker here is that just because my culture does one thing I SHOULDN'T EXPECT ANOTHER CULTURE TO DO IT TOO. That is the true definition of worldly. If I had a Princess of France at my dinner table and a Viking Earl at my table I would expect two different attitudes, not mine, not theirs, not hers, just difference. But, people are so hell bent on control or everything being like their own culture that anything outside of it is abnormal, and it's abnormal for some reason it is inferior.
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Old 04-19-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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Wow, over the top. I would not think you’re gay by the jewelry only by your actions. My first thought would be if you are a celebrity or wannabe. I would size you up quickly by your wardrobe, shoes and style.
Thank for being prepared to look beyond the jewellery and see action. I suppose in your American worldview the fact that I come from a European noble family would equate me to a "celebrity".

Funny how none of my jewellery/fragrances raise any eyebrows across the Atlantic.
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