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Old 05-30-2015, 01:44 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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There is an odd commercial for some weight-loss product on TV here, someone even uploaded it to YT
Anyway, the odd thing is the woman in the blue top, appearing at about 7 sec into the video. I just don't understand why she is among those other women, who are indeed obese. But that one woman's figure is cute and feminine. Is something wrong with my perception?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyOuJCB1tuY
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Europe
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People should take/face/meet people as what they are inside and not to focus on their weight, height, hair, nose or what ever..
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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I don't know about all you, but lately I been reading a lot of stuff on the Internet about the fat acceptance movement. I am not sure what their message is exactly but from what I gather they are trying to fix the societal standard of beauty to include larger people(mainly women) and normalize overweight people. I know what's it's like to be overweight and have a low self esteem so I don't think it's a bad thing to raise the self esteem of overweight individuals. There was also the Tess Holliday model making the rounds on the Internet.

On the other hand I also read articles like this: http://http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/americans-keep-getting-fatter-new-report-shows/ar-BBkm2o3 I think it would be hard for anyone to deny that being overweight/obese isn't healthy. So I have ask, do you think this fat acceptance movement is a good or bad thing?
It's getting worse, and it's going to get worse yet.

First, too many people refuse to look at the health aspect- increased risks for diabetes, heart problems, cancers, etc.- and insist on making it about appearance.
Which leads to nonsense about "judging," "fat-shaming, etc."
And following that, references to "real women" with sites showing women who are obese, claiming that's what real women look like.
And I think that third item will prove to be even more destructive to young people than having parents who don't care about health and/or don't provide the right kinds of foods for their kids.

I certainly don't think overweight/obese people should be ridiculed, put down, or anything like that, I just believe the emphasis should be focused on health rather than appearance. Otherwise, being overweight will be seen as the ideal, the norm- and unfortunately it does seem to be heading in that direction quite rapidly.
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I certainly don't think overweight/obese people should be ridiculed, put down, or anything like that, I just believe the emphasis should be focused on health rather than appearance. Otherwise, being overweight will be seen as the ideal, the norm- and unfortunately it does seem to be heading in that direction quite rapidly.
Part of that emphasis should be to focus on realistic portrayals of health. Too many people feel bad about themselves because they don't look like the cast of Magic Mike or like Victoria's Secret models. People can be healthy without being hardbodies or being miserable because they can't get to a certain number on the scale (that may not be in the cards for their body.) Sometimes perfectly healthy people are a little soft around the middle, and as long as their doctor's on board, then that's fine.
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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Part of that emphasis should be to focus on realistic portrayals of health. Too many people feel bad about themselves because they don't look like the cast of Magic Mike or like Victoria's Secret models. People can be healthy without being hardbodies or being miserable because they can't get to a certain number on the scale. Sometimes perfectly healthy people are a little soft around the middle, and as long as their doctor's on board, then that's fine.
True- not everyone has the same body type, bone structure, etc.

I don't think a few extra pounds should be a big deal either way, but when it comes to 50, 80, 100 pounds overweight, a person isn't going to be in the best of health, at least not in the longrun.
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Old 05-30-2015, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Europe
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Heart, veins and bodies belongs to their owners, if they want to die in early age because eating too much cream, just let them.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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Here's the thing -- a lot of people feel horrible about themselves because clothing doesn't fit. Well -- clothing designers use "croquis" to draw the designs on, and croquis are "9 heads high".

People aren't 9 heads high. They are 7 and 8 heads high. And shorter. There's something wrong with a system that is skewed against pretty EVERYONE from the outset. Let alone, we also don't know what's been tucked or stitched onto the models who show up for a photo shoot. OR the photoshopping done after the photoshoot.

I've seen size two's unhappy with how their bodies look in clothing, because the clothing isn't DESIGNED for them.

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I am heavy and losing weight, but even when I am skinny, I am going to have overly large boobs, no waist and wide hips. And my skinny won't be a size two -- it will be a size twelve, because I am large boned and heavily muscled. (And people here will still say I am fat because I am not a size two... but seriously, my sister got down to a size nine and she looked horrible, like someone with anorexia -- she scared my parents)...

But the body shaming -- ALL BODY SHAMING -- has to stop. And the people who are so righteously talking about health -- shut up. Not your body, not your business.
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Old 05-30-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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People just like to have something to feel superior about. It's not as if society suddenly started "caring deeply" about the health of others.
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Old 05-30-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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It seems that this fat acceptance movement doesn't apply to overweight males.
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:01 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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No, but they sure are attractive.
I'll take a 90lb. woman over a 220b. woman, all other factors being relatively equal.


^^YES PLEASE.^^


^^NO THANKS^^

Sorry. They BOTH look bad and unhealthy.
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