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Old 09-10-2018, 12:01 PM
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It seems that from my experience, fashion is the only arena in life where "looking good/posh" is an area where you literally receive more ridicule than if you look shoddy. For example, an autistic kid who studies and obsesses over grades may be made fun of but he's secretly more respected than the guy who fails for a laugh even by those who fail. Now I don't pass judgement on anyone because not everyone can afford clothing, but let me give an example.

Most people think men in skinny jeans or moderately feminine clothing (styled hair etc) looks ridiculous compared to a man in baggy jeans, dirty shoes etc..Why? What sense does that make? Is there something society has against femininity?
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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Well....personally I think women in "skinny jeans" look ridiculous...as ridiculous as a man wearing them.
I see men in the barber shop all the time..
I think maybe it's YOU who's thinking that we all think like you do....we don't...I don't..
I know lots of women who prefer to wear their clothes loose (baggy jeans)...maybe you live in a big city, cause most people I know have dirt on their shoes.

Society is no more against femininity than it is against masculinity....
I believe it is only those who are very insecure and unsure of THEMSELVES that would judge either negatively.
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Old 09-15-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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Not sure how your odd perception qualifies as a "Great Debate," but, if there is any truth to it, clothes themselves (for example, if they were on a mannequin) would likely not be considered "ridiculous". (Except, IMO, some far-fetched runway designer fashions look pretty silly, regardless of who is wearing them).

Perhaps you are referring to the general eye-rolling response of others to those attempting to appear like something they are not? ... in which case, the 'elegant' or 'shoddy' condition of their attire is probably not the issue.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:17 PM
 
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Most people think men in skinny jeans or moderately feminine clothing (styled hair etc) looks ridiculous compared to a man in baggy jeans, dirty shoes etc..Why? What sense does that make? Is there something society has against femininity?
They do? In MY experience those who think this must be some other species of human. Now if someone wearing elegant attire showed up to paint houses, sort recyclables, or work on cars it might be considered a bit odd...
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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'Skinny jean' are just the current fad...I can pretty much guarantee, in 10 yrs skinny jeans will NOT be popular at all, baggy jeans may be back in style by then or something else entirely.

Clothing trends and fashions are ALWAYs changing.
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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A woman can dress in men's clothing and walk down the street with very little attention from others because she is representing masculinity. If a man walks down the street in a feminine type of clothing then lots of looks and attention will be given ,mostly negative. I think there is a huge double standard in this . Masculinity is all encompassing and ok , femininity is only for women . Women can do martial arts , boxing ... Tradional male dominated sports. She hardly would be ridiculed. However if a man throws on ballet slippers its a huge no no and gets judged for his choice because men showing any kind of feminine behavior is "gasp"wrong. Remember at the end of the day society has determined what to be appropriate for genders to look and what's acceptable attire. Women aren't born with earrings , shaved legs, makeup ,dyed hair or pretty dresses. People should wear what the want and how that individual feels comfortable . If that makes some folks have an issue, here's a tissue, get over it. I will wear skinny jeans before I ever where anything baggy that makes me look like I'm swimming in my clothes. I do prefer something a little more In between but given the choice... Skinny over baggy
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Old 09-16-2018, 04:56 PM
 
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I think for many generations our culture has viewed the feminization of men as threatening to society.

Masculine dressing women on the other hand are largely ignored because womens behavior isn't viewed as being as consequential as that of men.

Women aren't viewed as holding society together...Men are.

The view is men need to be strong leaders, objective thinkers , capable providers and protectors. While women have also proven to be all of those things as well it's not expected of them the way it is of a men.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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'Skinny jean' are just the current fad...I can pretty much guarantee, in 10 yrs skinny jeans will NOT be popular at all, baggy jeans may be back in style by then or something else entirely.

Clothing trends and fashions are ALWAYs changing.
I mean, skinny jeans started becoming a 'thing' around 2002 from my recollection. Harder to find them but they were 'in' among the more fasion-forward crowd and then everywhere by about 2004. And here we are in 2018. 14+ years later. So...

The reality is that there are less specific 'it' fads now and more a mixture of styles. Go to a women's clothing store like Free People and you will find skinny jeans, flares, bell bottoms, high waist, low rise, overalls, etc.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
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Luckily I stick with the brands that cater to true men. Even with their pink polo shirts and button downs in their spring collections I don't think they will ever deliberately make their clothes more feminine; they want to keep their loyal customers happy.
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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Shoddy clothing does not threaten a man's masculine status the way feminine clothing would.
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