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Old Yesterday, 01:53 PM
 
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula
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Penny's actually had plans to expand, and to buy up other retail locations, when Mervyn's and another chain closed, but after that, the market changed so much, with brick-and-mortar losing favor, that they scrapped the project. IDK, probably the 2008 loan crisis and subsequent Great Recession took the wind out of their sails.
Target and Walmart have pretty good websites. (Not as good as Amazon by any means.) I'm sure Penney has a website but why bother? I have two Penny stores near me and I sometimes wander through when I'm a-malling. I think I bought a wallet from them in December. Their stock is always messed up, like right item but not in my size, right size but not to my taste. And jeans? Forget that price! They used to have good prices on jeans but those days are gone.
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Old Yesterday, 02:31 PM
 
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JC Penney (at least the ones near me) are so old and run down. The dressing rooms are dark, dusty and dirty and it's impossible to find a check out register, or when you do, you stand there for 15 minutes. And their returns SUCK too..you can't do returns at the regular registers.
I'll go to Target any day of the week for the ease of it all.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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for my SO other and I, they just don't carry the kinds of clothes in the quality and fits we want in enough quantity to even justify the out of the way trip to look at their store.

I wouldnt say we have an overly negative reputation, but we are just both indifferent and they are not on our radar.
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Old Yesterday, 02:47 PM
 
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río Porciúncula
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Are you in a small city. I'm in the big bad city (LA) and our JCP are okay except for often long waiting lines. That's not a problem for me because I hardly ever buy stuff there.

Walmart has a bit lower class of clientele. Target is nicer than Walmart but Walmart often as better prices. I like their cheap clothing for cheap applications, like sweat pants. It's a total cost of ownership thing. I just toss the sweats when they tear or lose the stitching. Not worth fixing even though I sew (if I have to).
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Old Yesterday, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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So, why does JCPenney tend to have a negative reputation among fashion forums?

Because that's where Mom shops.
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Old Yesterday, 04:17 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I never really go to JCP because I never really go to a mall. The mall's around here are dead.
Interesting. In my home town, they're not in a mall; they're in a regular store space on the street, downtown. That's how a lot of department stores are in San Francisco, too; Macy's is on the street downtown, along with other big department stores; Nordstrom's, Nieman Marcus, etc. I'd never seen a mall until I moved to Seattle. lol
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Old Yesterday, 04:44 PM
 
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I love JCP.

I don’t buy all my clothes there because I find some are poor quality. I go for the Lee jeans and loungewear. I get my son’s Pjs from there. They are also great for bras. I also buy housewares from there as well. They used to have a nice selection of handbags, but these days they’re slim pickings.

They have really good sales. Mine has a Sephora’s where I get my makeup from.

And I love the ship to store when I shop online.
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Old Yesterday, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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And what makes Chaps better than IZOD which both stores carry? Both brands compete in the same price range. And RL used to offer the similar American Living line for JCPenney, however, it just couldn't drive the sales that Chaps and IZOD pull.
American Living also exposed RL for a niche brand that they did not need, as it was easier to simplify the brands under house and licensee, since RL controls their licensees fairly tightly. Chaps also has established itself as a full line retail brand, with sportswear for women, including casual dresses to work appropriate attire, benefiting from the design focus of the main line RL brands that are filtered through the collections. It's clothing, but the roots are fashion.

IZOD lost its design language and focus when Lacoste stopped the licensing agreement in the 1990s. Lacoste then reintroduced the brand to the US market on its own, focusing on upscale sportswear, whereas IZOD attempted to compete with a crowded brand marketplace, inspired by the much older Lacoste collections, but manufactured. IZOD does not have a fashion focus, and just manufactures clothes that are based upon prevailing price points and standard designs. Differences from various seasons are in patterns and colors, but the underlying design of the garments produced do not change, which is different from a fashion-oriented brand that does feature new designs and fabrics, even if the company has some stalwarts, i.e., RL's polo shirts and rugby shirts that are clothing, but the Purple Label is fashion.
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Old Yesterday, 05:18 PM
Status: ""Don't count the days; make the days count "" (set 18 days ago)
 
Location: Eastern Long Island, New York
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Their stock is currently under $2.00 and has been on a long decline due to lack of consistent leadership and pissing off some of their most loyal customers from years back....they would like to close mores stores but in areas where the malls are suffering ( such as what crd08 has said has happened near her a few posts prior ) the mall owners are in such desperate need for cash that they will not allow current tenants out of their leases....

This article hits the nail on the head in my opinion.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/27/busin...ory/index.html

Edit: To add screenshot of Penney's stock price....was at one time $82.00 per share in March of 2007 and is today at $1.34
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Old Yesterday, 05:23 PM
 
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Interesting. In my home town, they're not in a mall; they're in a regular store space on the street, downtown. That's how a lot of department stores are in San Francisco, too; Macy's is on the street downtown, along with other big department stores; Nordstrom's, Nieman Marcus, etc. I'd never seen a mall until I moved to Seattle. lol
They have malls in San Francisco. There is a Westfield mall and the Stonestown Galleria, both of which have department stores.
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