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Old Today, 04:51 PM
 
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Helena Rubinstein being the founder of a very popular cosmetics company. One of her infamous quotes being:

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There are no ugly women, only lazy ones.
Do you think she has a point?
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Old Today, 05:34 PM
 
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Nope. Okay, she does have a point that society allows women to tinker with their looks to their advantage. But mostly it's just a perfect slogan for a woman who is trying to profit from selling beauty products.
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Old Today, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Encino, CA
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Helena Rubinstein being the founder of a very popular cosmetics company. One of her infamous quotes being:

"There are no ugly women, only lazy ones"

Do you think she has a point?
She absolutely does have a point. Now, you have to also understand the context of the entire conversation/interview with her, and the state of beauty in the world during that time which was LITERALLY 100 years ago. There were very very very few overweight women at that time. Majority of women were stay at home wives/moms where all the really had to do is try to be pretty for their husbands. Rubinstein herself was no natural beauty - she was 4' 11" tall, no great body. But, what she was referring to with her comment, is that with effort, ANY woman can create her own sense of style/beauty if she wanted to (and buy her products of course). Despite her physical "challenges", men (and women) found her to be the epitome of beauty, elegance and class. THAT is what she was talking about.

In today's world, I can see how people not know the details and back story of when/why she said that, would get upset. Especially with all the "fat shaming" and similar things going on people are quick to respond with negative emotions. But, overall, I think she's mostly right. I've seen some unattractive women make themselves up to be quite interesting/attractive by creating their own personal sense of style by having stylised hair, eyes, makeup, fashion sense, etc. which DOES take some work. Sooooooo.................this quote still is found to be true even in this day and age 100 years after first being utters. CASE DISMISSED!! [GAVEL HITS THE BLOCK]

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Old Today, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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She absolutely does have a point. Now, you have to also understand the context of the entire conversation/interview with her, and the state of beauty in the world during that time which was LITERALLY 100 years ago. There were very very very few overweight women at that time. Majority of women were stay at home wives/moms where all the really had to do is try to be pretty for their husbands. Rubinstein herself was no natural beauty - she was 4' 11" tall, no great body. But, what she was referring to with her comment, is that with effort, ANY woman can create her own sense of style/beauty if she wanted to (and buy her products of course). Despite her physical "challenges", men (and women) found her to be the epitome of beauty, elegance and class. THAT is what she was talking about.

In today's world, I can see how people not know the details and back story of when/why she said that, would get upset. Especially with all the "fat shaming" and similar things going on people are quick to respond with negative emotions. But, overall, I think she's mostly right. I've seen some unattractive women make themselves up to be quite interesting/attractive by creating their own personal sense of style by having stylised hair, eyes, makeup, fashion sense, etc. which DOES take some work. Sooooooo.................this quote still is found to be true even in this day and age 100 years after first being utters. CASE DISMISSED!! [GAVEL HITS THE BLOCK]

This context is necessary to understand this quote.

I also agree. We live in a society now where we think “trying” means you are high maintenance or tortuous.

Anyone can look better with effort.

But everyone has different standards of the minimum bar and the maximum amount of effort they are willing to put in.
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Old Today, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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There were very very very few overweight women at that time. Majority of women were stay at home wives/moms where all the really had to do is try to be pretty for their husbands.
OK, sure most younger women were slim, but many, many older women were stout after they had that fourth or fifth baby.

And a housewife of 100 years ago worked hard. Stoves were primitive, and meals required time and energy to prepare. Laundry was done virtually by hand, and hung outdoors to dry. Vacuums were primitive and heavy. Many times, women did canning and preserving as well. They also sewed and mended.

I can’t imagine where you got the idea most housewives were ladies of leisure and that they all stayed slim throughout their lives.
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Old Today, 10:42 PM
 
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OK, sure most younger women were slim, but many, many older women were stout after they had that fourth or fifth baby.

And a housewife of 100 years ago worked hard. Stoves were primitive, and meals required time and energy to prepare. Laundry was done virtually by hand, and hung outdoors to dry. Vacuums were primitive and heavy. Many times, women did canning and preserving as well. They also sewed and mended.

I can’t imagine where you got the idea most housewives were ladies of leisure and that they all stayed slim throughout their lives.
Outside of big cities, you would be considered a tart if you wore cheek or lip rouge.
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