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Old 03-04-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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**DISCLAIMER**
If you have issues with Plus size women, move on!


Ok, as a full-figured designer, one of my main assertions is that you can not start off with a size 4 pattern and scale it to meet the plus size customer WITHOUT it losing it's flare!

Damn I'm ticked just thinking about it.

What I mean is unless the design is made with the full-figured customer in mind (ie...pattern), the garment ends up looking one of two ways..

1) watered down and cheap

or

2) it turns into a different design altogether!

Have you ever seen an picture where you know the garment was NOT MADE for the model wearing it? Have you noticed how it makes the quality of the garment just seems to look cheap and unattractive?

I was watching a runway show recently and it was so obvious that the designer had the plus size diva in mind when she started the collection, because when the "non-plus sized" models strolled down the catwalk in the creations it almost looked like the garments were eating them alive .

Has anyone else ever noticed this? What are you thoughts, on the topic.

Examples of a good full figured design gone wrong.

Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_korto2.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic &WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=2 - broken link)
Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_korto2.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic &WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=6 - broken link)


Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_korto2.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic &WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=9 - broken link)


How they should be modeled (IMO), personal

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_douglassays2.htm?wbc_purpose =Basic&WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=4 - broken link)

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_douglassays2.htm?wbc_purpose =Basic&WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=5 - broken link)

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptherunway09/riptherunway09_photos/riptherunway09_photos_douglassays2.htm?wbc_purpose =Basic&WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&i=7 - broken link)
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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Well I just don't think it makes sense to use just kinda normal looking women to model plus size stuff.

And yes..I totally agree..It over powers them. That whole familiar lines is not working. The green dress looked ok..bad modeling. But still looked like it worked. I love flowy wrap dresses though so perhaps I am partial to it on natural inclinations.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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I definitely agree that if you are going to make an outfit for a specific body type, such as plus sizes, then you should start at the small end of that scale and work your way up, not start at the small end of the total scale. And vice versa. You shouldn't try to make an outfit by scaling down a plus size.

As for the modeling, the models should be the size of the clothing. Having smaller models for plus size or plus size for smaller clothing should be a big No-No.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I love, love, love that first dress (photo #5) under your "how they should be modeled" section! Just goes to show you that curvy is sexy and beautiful!
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:31 PM
 
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Ita! :d


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Originally Posted by redjuel View Post
i love, love, love that first dress (photo #5) under your "how they should be modeled" section! Just goes to show you that curvy is sexy and beautiful!
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Originally Posted by Bjones1976 View Post
**DISCLAIMER**
If you have issues with Plus size women, move on!


Ok, as a full-figured designer, one of my main assertions is that you can not start off with a size 4 pattern and scale it to meet the plus size customer WITHOUT it losing it's flare!

Damn I'm ticked just thinking about it.

What I mean is unless the design is made with the full-figured customer in mind (ie...pattern), the garment ends up looking one of two ways..

1) watered down and cheap

or

2) it turns into a different design altogether!

Have you ever seen an picture where you know the garment was NOT MADE for the model wearing it? Have you noticed how it makes the quality of the garment just seems to look cheap and unattractive?

I was watching a runway show recently and it was so obvious that the designer had the plus size diva in mind when she started the collection, because when the "non-plus sized" models strolled down the catwalk in the creations it almost looked like the garments were eating them alive .

Has anyone else ever noticed this? What are you thoughts, on the topic.

Examples of a good full figured design gone wrong.

Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=2 - broken link)
Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=6 - broken link)


Korto Momolu Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=9 - broken link)


How they should be modeled (IMO), personal

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=4 - broken link)

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=5 - broken link)

Plus Size Collection | Photos | BET Rip The Runway 2009 Official Site | BET.com (http://www.bet.com/Specials/riptheru...npublished&i=7 - broken link)

Go to the grocery store or any other place you are likely to encounter large swaths of people and you will see hideous on hideous every day. Did you just realize this phenom?
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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When I first saw the title of this topic I thought it was going to be about Ashley Nell Tipton from this season's Project Runway. Then I noticed the mentions of Korto and the date of the OP. I had not heard of BET's Rip the Runway but will see what I can find (all I found so far was "page not found" on BET's site for the links).

Very interesting topic; sorry I missed it the first time around.
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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I agree completely. Petite women, just to give another parallel, they need clothes designed to fit their proportions--usually this means a short torso, plus a small-boned frame. Women who are taller than average need clothes designed to flatter their proportions too. Plus-size women have the same need, for clothes designed to flatter their proportions.

Just to be specific, plus-size women often have a large bust that can be flattered by some necklines or materials--if this isn't taken into account when clothing is scaled for plus sizes, the results can be just appalling.

Waist styles, hemline lengths, even the pattern size or style on a fabric, these can all be either flattering or extremely unflattering to a plus-size customer. They're factors that need to be considered when clothes are put on the racks for plus-size customers.
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Old 10-31-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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When I first saw the title of this topic I thought it was going to be about Ashley Nell Tipton from this season's Project Runway. Then I noticed the mentions of Korto and the date of the OP. I had not heard of BET's Rip the Runway but will see what I can find (all I found so far was "page not found" on BET's site for the links).

Very interesting topic; sorry I missed it the first time around.
Yeah, the links weren't working for me either.
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:53 PM
 
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Dear fashion designers,

I have received a invitation from defara.com. I do not know if this is real. The told:

"If you are looking for opportunities for establishing fashion brand or just selling your fashion design works, defara is the place for you. They are sending 50 invitaions to designers during November 2015 to provide €200 for registered designer to start making their samples on Defara."

But their site is really not easy to use, i just want to know have you ever received such invitation?
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