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1. Awful. Chiffon + leopard print?
2. Skirt looks great. Versatile piece. Length would be too short on a tall woman.
3. Yuk.
4. Great if fabric is good. Should flatter most people.
5. No.
6. Looks cheap like too much spandex.
7. Great colors. Works well as cruise clothing. Hope it's not synthetic.
8. ?
9. Chiffon? Fabric is too thin for large sizes. Would need too many foundation garments to pull it off. The color will not appeal to alot of women.
10. Same as #9.
I understand that you're surveying clothing for the 18-34 yr old age group. My daughter is in her mid-20s and these clothes would not appeal to her. One of the problems is that plus-sized women need good fabric for their clothes--I mean, good quality, not cheap, synthetic lightweight fabrics. Second, there doesn't appear to be much tailoring in these clothes. Plus-sized women need things that accentuate the positives and downplay the negatives. For example, strong necklines and collars, better-fitting torsos and sleeves and trousers that neither gap up nor strangle the body. I'm talking about clean lines here. The majority of (off the rack) clothing do not address the different body types, including plus sizes. For example, how many times have we seen skirt or dress hems that are lower in the front than the back? It's because there is a rear back there and these clothes do not adjust the hemlines, which should be lowered in the back so it appears even all the way around!
Third, I don't see any kind of creative coordinating in these pics. Alot of women I know already have the staples (i.e., black trousers, long-sleeve white shirt, etc.) and are simply looking for something to add onto their wardrobes, especially just to freshen it up for a season. Most women also have their favorite scarves, jewelry, hats, etc. that could easily combine with new designs.
1. Awful. Chiffon + leopard print?
2. Skirt looks great. Versatile piece. Length would be too short on a tall woman.
3. Yuk.
4. Great if fabric is good. Should flatter most people.
5. No.
6. Looks cheap like too much spandex.
7. Great colors. Works well as cruise clothing. Hope it's not synthetic.
8. ?
9. Chiffon? Fabric is too thin for large sizes. Would need too many foundation garments to pull it off. The color will not appeal to alot of women.
10. Same as #9.
I understand that you're surveying clothing for the 18-34 yr old age group. My daughter is in her mid-20s and these clothes would not appeal to her. One of the problems is that plus-sized women need good fabric for their clothes--I mean, good quality, not cheap, synthetic lightweight fabrics. Second, there doesn't appear to be much tailoring in these clothes. Plus-sized women need things that accentuate the positives and downplay the negatives. For example, strong necklines and collars, better-fitting torsos and sleeves and trousers that neither gap up nor strangle the body. I'm talking about clean lines here. The majority of (off the rack) clothing do not address the different body types, including plus sizes. For example, how many times have we seen skirt or dress hems that are lower in the front than the back? It's because there is a rear back there and these clothes do not adjust the hemlines, which should be lowered in the back so it appears even all the way around!
Third, I don't see any kind of creative coordinating in these pics. Alot of women I know already have the staples (i.e., black trousers, long-sleeve white shirt, etc.) and are simply looking for something to add onto their wardrobes, especially just to freshen it up for a season. Most women also have their favorite scarves, jewelry, hats, etc. that could easily combine with new designs.
I also liked #7. fun colors and the pattern is over the top and garish
I really don't like large swaths of animal print. I don't think I could personally pull it off and I haven't seen many women of any size who can (maybe a nice animal print accessory like a belt or even just a shirt collar might work)
going off w/ what everyone else said, I agree that clothes in general seem to be made w/ much thinner, stretchy material that doesn't look nice on everyone. I don't like super thin and clingy material that allows the outlines of my bra to be seen or people to guess whether I have a "innie" or an "outtie". I'm an apple shape so don't want stuff tightly clinging to my belly and making me look pregnant. it's always hard for me to buy clothes b/c I either end up w/ something too tight or too billowy
Thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread.
Yes, I am a plus sized designer and city data is one of the many avenues I use to get information on my target customer.
I'm not a buyer, if that's what your asking. I design my own clothing and I design for others as well.
I KNOW more plus sized women than "normal sized" women.
My demographic is 18-34 yr olds particularly, however I can appreciate the opinions from females of any age range. Most of what I design can be worn anywhere.
If there is one thing I've learned about plus sized women, it's that we are not all the same. Some of us are rectangular, some apples-shaped, some pear-shaped. Then there is the triangle shaped, the inverted triangle shaped (it's a challenge I tell ya ) etc..
Then there's the realization that there are alot of other issues that have to be taken into account when designing for this market. There are alot of psychological issues (customer buying behaviors) that play a huge role in what the plus sized customer likes and dislikes. As disheartening as it is to see, society's disdain for the "woman of a certain size" play an intricate role in how certain women feel about themselves, which in turn affects how they want to dress their full-sized figures. Sadly, it also effects how they view women who are plus sized but don't subscribe to covering it up mentality.
I understand not every plus-sized woman is comfortable with certain looks and that not every one is going to like everything, but ultimately my goal is to encourage the "bigger gal" to appreciate her beauty regardless of what her size is and to encourage her to dress in a way that communicates that.
I for one didnt look at the pics of your products, after reading thru some of the post, i didnt need to, im 37, im not overly huge, but i do carry about 40lbs more then i should, and all in the middle. Im also naturally large breasted, so needless to say, i have to agree with others here, no one wants to advertise so to speak their worse spots, last thing i want to do is show off my thicker hips/middle or my tummy and butt.
i wear alot of stuff that is fashion current, i just revamp it to suit my shape. ive got very slim legs and arms, not normal in women who are heavier, so i will wear tighter fitten down the leg pants to accent slimmer legs, and i will wear a hip length shirt with slim sleeves and decent cleavage cut, that way focus is not on my middle.
i wouldnt wear bright festive patterns to draw attention, i wil lwear colors, but in slimming patterns,
funny thing is, watch that show with the gay guy on tv who dresses woman with bit of meat on their bones, he knows what he is doing, im always amazed on how he can take something you already have and cut here and tuck there and wow!!!
not every woman is the same, and yes, your stuff may sell, but only cuz women who got meat on their bones have no other options, so they are forced to buy the circus clothes people think we should wear instead of making clothes we would like to wear that will flatter us as individuals, not makeing clothes that suits one form of heavy woman, but clothes that are versitile to all types of heavy woman, like jeans, not all of us want a pair of jeans that will fit our hips, yet are 3 times to big down the legs, dont assume all woman with one waist size also has legs that are big to.
food for thought best of luck to you
I also liked #7. fun colors and the pattern is over the top and garish
I really don't like large swaths of animal print. I don't think I could personally pull it off and I haven't seen many women of any size who can (maybe a nice animal print accessory like a belt or even just a shirt collar might work)
going off w/ what everyone else said, I agree that clothes in general seem to be made w/ much thinner, stretchy material that doesn't look nice on everyone. I don't like super thin and clingy material that allows the outlines of my bra to be seen or people to guess whether I have a "innie" or an "outtie". I'm an apple shape so don't want stuff tightly clinging to my belly and making me look pregnant. it's always hard for me to buy clothes b/c I either end up w/ something too tight or too billowy
Although it would have been beneficial for you to look at the images before responding...........(thereby making an informed opinion),
I want to thank you for your response.
Please allow me to bring some things in your responses to your attention.
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Originally Posted by Sweetlady71
I for one didnt look at the pics of your products
1) Although personally I like some of the garments mentioned, they aren't my products.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetlady71
not every woman is the same.
2) This is it in a nutshell. All plus sized women are NOT the same. What may be visually unappealing to you may make the next women feel extremely sexy (ie ..showing off the butt) The worse thing a person can do (especially a designer) and the one thing I've learned is that for the Plus Sized shopper it's just as much about the psychological as it is the physical. Which means we're buying for a myriad of reasons
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetlady71
Your stuff may sell, but only cuz women who got meat on their bones have no other options, so they are forced to buy the circus clothes people think we should wear instead of making clothes we would like to wear that will flatter us as individuals,
Women shop at walmart for one reason and shop at the above websites for different reasons. Bottom line, your incorrect! There are options out there and they exist because there are customers whose tastes differ and as you stated, are NOT the same. Personal style is about an individual wearing what is flattering to him/her and goes alot further than what Tim Gunn or Carson Kressly's suggests (to each his/her own).
You do know that there is an entire industry out there that feels as a plus women YOU don't have the right to even WANT to wear anything other than a MOO-MOO (ie. circus clothes) ? Knowing this please be careful that you don't do the same thing by imposing a difference of opinion on the next woman, simply because you feel the way you feel about YOUR body.
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