Cities passing laws against "droopy drawers"-your thoughts please (look, difference)

[buni13]

Originally Posted by maciesmom

... last I heard, looking ridiculous wasn't something in need of legislation

spot on!

I'm in South Carolina & in my town, I think fining of "droopy drawers" would be viewed as a racist move. There are some handwritten "pull up your pants" signs on the doors of convenience stores around here (surprise surprise, these signs are in the low-income, minority areas). I think as long as nothing 'private' is showing, fashion sense shouldn't be an issue.

[virgode]

Yeah, your right, let them walk around like they have a load of crap in their pants, aint hurtin me any.

[revelated]

Originally Posted by anadyr21

I don't particularly like the idea of someone telling me what I can and can't wear, as long as it isn't offensive or dangerous.

But it IS offensive. That's the problem. That's why this topic even exists; some are offended by it, some are not, but the reason for the discussion in the first place revolves around the people that are offended. No different than if I walked out in public with a T-shirt claiming I like to rough women up; "just clothes", sure, but the message is likely to offend a population of people. Yes, that's a drastic example. But my point is, we wouldn't even be speaking now if it didn't offend some folks somewhere (referring to the sagging pants).

Quite honestly, and maybe I'm just old, but I relegate it to parenting failure in some ways. Parents who grew up in the hippie era, likely, who convince their kids to be individual and rebellious instead of convincing youngsters that the way to be in life - in real life - is to do whatever you can so as not to offend people, even though you accept that you can't please everyone, don't go out of your way to do something that you know is going to raise eyebrows.

[JetJockey]

Originally Posted by revelated

But it IS offensive. That's the problem. That's why this topic even exists; some are offended by it, some are not, but the reason for the discussion in the first place revolves around the people that are offended. No different than if I walked out in public with a T-shirt claiming I like to rough women up; "just clothes", sure, but the message is likely to offend a population of people. Yes, that's a drastic example. But my point is, we wouldn't even be speaking now if it didn't offend some folks somewhere (referring to the sagging pants).

Quite honestly, and maybe I'm just old, but I relegate it to parenting failure in some ways. Parents who grew up in the hippie era, likely, who convince their kids to be individual and rebellious instead of convincing youngsters that the way to be in life - in real life - is to do whatever you can so as not to offend people, even though you accept that you can't please everyone, don't go out of your way to do something that you know is going to raise eyebrows.

Everyone is going to do something that offends someone else. I have a full sleeve (and then some ) of tattoos. Do I cover them up in public? No. Does it offend certain people? Yes. Do I care? No.

If someone shows off their thong, or sags their pants or wears pants that someone would deem 'too tight' why does it bother you so much? Yeah, it's not all that attractive to me, but I'll roll my eyes and move on.

If I based my life around trying not to offend people, I'd be locked in my house wearing a burqa.. doesn't sound like living life to me

[revelated]

Originally Posted by JetJockey

Everyone is going to do something that offends someone else. I have a full sleeve (and then some ) of tattoos. Do I cover them up in public? No. Does it offend certain people? Yes. Do I care? No.

If someone shows off their thong, or sags their pants or wears pants that someone would deem 'too tight' why does it bother you so much? Yeah, it's not all that attractive to me, but I'll roll my eyes and move on.

If I based my life around trying not to offend people, I'd be locked in my house wearing a burqa.. doesn't sound like living life to me

Here's the deal though and it's the point I'm making. The squeaky wheel gets the grease - meaning if enough people complain, the city can and will intervene. People talk all the time about not having the government in their lives...in this case do you know how to avoid such things, parents? All you have to do is make sure your kids are wearing things that won't get people up in arms. You aren't forced, but just know that if you don't do that, the government is eventually going to buckle under the pressure.

You can't have it both ways. Either you try to stay under the radar so that "Big Brother" doesn't step in, or you try to be a rebel and accept a socialist oversight. If retaining my civil liberties means I don't go out in public wearing offensive clothes, to me that's a small tradeoff for what little freedom I can retain. But whatever.

[JetJockey]

Originally Posted by revelated

Here's the deal though and it's the point I'm making. The squeaky wheel gets the grease - meaning if enough people complain, the city can and will intervene. People talk all the time about not having the government in their lives...in this case do you know how to avoid such things, parents? All you have to do is make sure your kids are wearing things that won't get people up in arms. You aren't forced, but just know that if you don't do that, the government is eventually going to buckle under the pressure.

You can't have it both ways. Either you try to stay under the radar so that "Big Brother" doesn't step in, or you try to be a rebel and accept a socialist oversight. If retaining my civil liberties means I don't go out in public wearing offensive clothes, to me that's a small tradeoff for what little freedom I can retain. But whatever.

Fine with me, keep complaining. I'll just complain right back.

But it does make me smile a bit that I can offend people simply by being myself.

[texdav]

I thnik tehy are eventually going to be challenged on that law. The exposure laws are pretty specific to prevent people wearing things like swim trucks from being charged .I personally think its disgusting but alot of things we accept are really more revealing.

[buni13]

Originally Posted by revelated

Don't even get me started on the "sagging skinny jeans" fad.

kinda glad I haven't seen THAT yet.

[Interpol76]

Just wanted to tell you all that I just put on my drainpipe jeans for the day. Hopefully I don't get arrested!

[anadyr21]

Originally Posted by revelated

But it IS offensive. That's the problem. That's why this topic even exists; some are offended by it, some are not, but the reason for the discussion in the first place revolves around the people that are offended. No different than if I walked out in public with a T-shirt claiming I like to rough women up; "just clothes", sure, but the message is likely to offend a population of people. Yes, that's a drastic example. But my point is, we wouldn't even be speaking now if it didn't offend some folks somewhere (referring to the sagging pants).

Quite honestly, and maybe I'm just old, but I relegate it to parenting failure in some ways. Parents who grew up in the hippie era, likely, who convince their kids to be individual and rebellious instead of convincing youngsters that the way to be in life - in real life - is to do whatever you can so as not to offend people, even though you accept that you can't please everyone, don't go out of your way to do something that you know is going to raise eyebrows.

In other words, stick to the status quo?

I'm genuinely curious. Exactly why are baggy pants offensive. Is it because of the view of underwear? I think quite a few fashion styles these days are beyond silly, but I'm not offended.

Baggy pants aren't the same as wearing a T-shirt with a swastika. There is no offensive "message" or connotation.