U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Fashion and Beauty
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
 
Old 12-13-2009, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
2,117 posts, read 4,561,411 times
Reputation: 1522

Advertisements

Well, I'm sure there will be a lot of "70's / woodstock" answers - but, let's come up with some different ideas.

I've noticed that, clothing stores in the United States are segregated based on a variety of reasons, both obvious and not. Age, income and style are some examples.

Pacsun, American Eagle, Ambercrombie, Buckle.. these are stores that most people over their 20's wouldn't shop at. JC Penny, Sears... Macy's - these are some affordable department stores. Then there are stores like Nordstrom. What about Target and Walmart? Footlocker? Payless?

I've noticed that Europe has a more 'desegregated' approach. I know a lot of people that wouldn't be caught dead shopping at Payless. However, people don't have any problem shopping at shoe stores similar to Payless in America. When women buy shoes here, they buy pumps, ballerinas, or boots. American women usually buy running shoes and wear them with jeans - this doesn't occur a lot, just more than in Europe.

There are very few hip hop/young generation stores where I live in Europe. Most of the stores here are ones that people of all ages shop at.. esprit, h &m, edc, and department stores.

Jeans... This one has been discussed before. Bootcut jeans are in fashion, still, yes even in Europe. However, baggy jeans are not. Don't confuse bootcut with baggy. Jeans seem to be of higher quality here. The fabric, the die process, stitching... all at a similar price to jeans in America. Jeans just look better here. I still see a lot of Americans abroad wearing the super bleached white wash faded jeans.

People I know in Europe tend to be more "thrify" with fashion. People also tend to not care about brands and labels. Brands and labels seem to run American purchase opinions. The hip-hop culture sadly seems to turn some teenagers/early and mid 20's American into a wanna-be gangstar (white chicks with gang signs). Don't get me wrong though - this happens in Europe, but not nearly as much in America.

Well, let's get it started then...
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-13-2009, 09:07 AM
 
5,065 posts, read 13,268,624 times
Reputation: 3497
What part of America have you been to? I think you'll find that fashions vary widely from region to region across the U.S. For instance, where I live I haven't seen "The hip-hop culture sadly seems to turn some teenagers/early and mid 20's American into a wanna-be gangstar (white chicks with gang signs)". And I know a lot of people who wouldn't shop at Payless, though you feel that Americans have no problem with it. And JCPenney's really isn't in the same category as Macy's, Macy's is more upscale----and I rarely see women wearing sneakers with jeans unless they are at their child's sports game, etc.---I could pick apart your post line by line, but you get the point. I think people tend to buy what they can afford.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
335 posts, read 1,101,526 times
Reputation: 308
A short answer : two different cultures.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
2,117 posts, read 4,561,411 times
Reputation: 1522
Quote:
Originally Posted by beach.guy View Post
A short answer : two different cultures.
Oh, really. I wasn't aware of that .

Maybe I wanted to find some reasons why there are culture differences.

Thanks for your input.

As far as the other poster is concerned, I've been to a lot of different regions of the United States. Midwest, North, Northwest, South, Southwest..Mid-north.....
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
2,117 posts, read 4,561,411 times
Reputation: 1522
Quote:
Originally Posted by andthentherewere3 View Post
And I know a lot of people who wouldn't shop at Payless, though you feel that Americans have no problem with it.
Whoops, sorry. I meant Americans wouldn't be caught dead shopping at Payless, but Europeans wouldn't mind shopping at compareable stores here in Europe.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 02:37 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
32,101 posts, read 39,155,933 times
Reputation: 40495
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommodonahue View Post
Whoops, sorry. I meant Americans wouldn't be caught dead shopping at Payless, but Europeans wouldn't mind shopping at compareable stores here in Europe.
If "Americans wouldn't be caught dead shopping at PayLess" then how and why do those stores exist?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
2,117 posts, read 4,561,411 times
Reputation: 1522
nevermind.

/end thread
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 05:42 PM
 
4,868 posts, read 7,126,277 times
Reputation: 3134
I agree with the op. European clothes are just better quality and reasonably priced. I'm only 23 but I don't really shop at American Eagle, never shopped at A&F, etc. I have jeans I bought in israel when i was 19. I have lost weight since then and these jeans now barely fit me, but I keep them and still wear them all the time because I can't find "American" jeans of comparable quality unless I travel to N.Y...maybe if I look hard enough in LA, which is closer to me, I'll find the same type of jeans. I've never been to Europe but I've been to Israel, which is a similar society and I saw designers set up shop near the small name brands and everyone bought what was nice, regardless of price/name. I also work in "high end" retail and its amazing to me the customers that fly into my store because the new "Betsy Johnson" is now in stock! I love betsy to a point, but I can't wear much of her clothes/swimsuits, even if I could afford it. I had a friend who would pretty much only shop at A&F and the same ugly top she got there for 40 bucks, was 8 bucks at forever 21, but I didn't even buy it at forever 21 because I don't like that style. After working the more upscale market for a while, I don't think there is much of a difference between designer and some small name brand. I have only bought clothes I like, that I will wear, regardless of who made it. I proudly proclaim if my shoes came from Payless! it makes the people who drop tons of money on a similar style feel stupid! bahahaha

oh, and P.S...most "designers" have their clothes made in china or some other cheap market abroad..think about that the next time you drop $400 on a pair of michael kors sweats , which my store has sold before. A friend of mine was in the fitting room at BCBG and said that the threads from the dress was already coming undone..a $400 dress..
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona High Desert
4,636 posts, read 4,945,754 times
Reputation: 2736
Quote:
Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
If "Americans wouldn't be caught dead shopping at PayLess" then how and why do those stores exist?
Years ago, every town had at least 2 shoe stores. Thom Mc Ann and Kinney's. The picture windows made browsing easier. I walk into a Payless and wonder where the good shoes are. They aren't much better than the toxic stuff found in K mart. Slippers rarely last more than a season they are so shoddily made. If Americans had better choices, we would buy better stuff, even if it meant saving up for it. I will be so glad when the "slob look" is out of fashion. Sad to say, in many places, it is standard uniform.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-13-2009, 06:35 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
32,101 posts, read 39,155,933 times
Reputation: 40495
I agree, I remember those times. I was responding to the "not caught dead" remark from someone in Denmark.
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:
Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Fashion and Beauty
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top