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Old 02-17-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Someone was talking about real data. Here it is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. First, Sperling's Best Places to Live says FY has 217 sunny days per year, or 59% of the days are sunny. The first town on the NOAA list at 59% is Asheville, NC. Thank you for pushing me to confirm what I have always suspected, that the sun only shines in this place about 6 out of every 10 days. These towns all have more sunshine than FY:

YUMA, AZ 90%
REDDING, CA 88%
LAS VEGAS, NV 85%
PHOENIX, AZ 85%
TUCSON, AZ 85%
EL PASO, TX 84%
FRESNO, CA 79%
RENO, NV 79%
FLAGSTAFF, AZ 78%
SACRAMENTO, CA 78%
ALBUQUERQUE, NM 76%
KEY WEST, FL 76%
PUEBLO, CO 76%
MIDLAND-ODESSA, TX 74%
ROSWELL, NM 74%
AMARILLO, TX 73%
ELY, NV 73%
LOS ANGELES C.O., CA 73%
LAKE CHARLES, LA 72%
LUBBOCK, TX 72%
NORTH LITTLE ROCK, AR 72%
GRAND JUNCTION, CO 71%
HONOLULU, HI 71%
JOHNSTON ISLAND, PC 71%
ABILENE, TX 70%
DODGE CITY, KS 70%
MIAMI, FL 70%
MILFORD, UT 70%
WAKE ISLAND, PC 70%
DENVER, CO 69%
LANDER, WY 68%
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 68%
SAN DIEGO, CA 68%
WINNEMUCCA, NV 68%
CONCORDIA, KS 67%
KAHULUI, HI 67%
NORTH PLATTE, NE 67%
SAN JUAN, PR 67%
APALACHICOLA, FL 66%
CHEYENNE, WY 66%
MACON, GA 66%
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 66%
SAN FRANCISCO C.O., CA 66%
TAMPA, FL 66%
VALENTINE, NE 65%
WICHITA, KS 65%
BOISE, ID 64%
COLUMBIA, SC 64%
MEMPHIS, TN 64%
POCATELLO, ID 64%
SHREVEPORT, LA 64%
TUPELO, MS 64%
CHARLESTON AP, SC 63%
HURON, SD 63%
JACKSONVILLE, FL 63%
RAPID CITY, SD 63%
RICHMOND, VA 63%
SHERIDAN, WY 63%
WILMINGTON, NC 63%
CHARLOTTE, NC 62%
GALVESTON, TX 62%
LITTLE ROCK, AR 62%
SAVANNAH, GA 62%
TULSA, OK 62%
CAIRO, IL 61%
DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX 61%
FORT SMITH, AR 61%
GREAT FALLS, MT 61%
JACKSON, MS 61%
LINCOLN, NE 61%
SIOUX CITY, IA 61%
TOPEKA, KS 61%
ATLANTA, GA 60%
AUSTIN/BERGSTROM, TX 60%
AUSTIN/CITY, TX 60%
BILLINGS, MT 60%
BROWNSVILLE, TX 60%
CAPE HATTERAS, NC 60%
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 60%
GREENSBORO-WNSTN-SALM, NC 60%
GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG AP, SC 60%
KANSAS CITY, MO 60%
NORFOLK, VA 60%
OMAHA (NORTH), NE 60%
PENSACOLA, FL 60%
SAN ANTONIO, TX 60%
SPRINGFIELD, MO 60%
WILLISTON, ND 60%

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Old 02-17-2014, 11:56 AM
 
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Someone was talking about real data. Here it is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. First, Sperling's Best Places to Live says FY has 217 sunny days per year, or 59% of the days are sunny. The first town on the NOAA list at 59% is Asheville, NC. Thank you for pushing me to confirm what I have always suspected, that the sun only shines in this place about 6 out of every 10 days. These towns all have more sunshine than FY:

YUMA, AZ 90%
REDDING, CA 88%
LAS VEGAS, NV 85%
PHOENIX, AZ 85%
TUCSON, AZ 85%
EL PASO, TX 84%
FRESNO, CA 79%
RENO, NV 79%
FLAGSTAFF, AZ 78%
SACRAMENTO, CA 78%
ALBUQUERQUE, NM 76%
KEY WEST, FL 76%
PUEBLO, CO 76%
MIDLAND-ODESSA, TX 74%
ROSWELL, NM 74%
AMARILLO, TX 73%
ELY, NV 73%
LOS ANGELES C.O., CA 73%
LAKE CHARLES, LA 72%
LUBBOCK, TX 72%
NORTH LITTLE ROCK, AR 72%
GRAND JUNCTION, CO 71%
HONOLULU, HI 71%
JOHNSTON ISLAND, PC 71%
ABILENE, TX 70%
DODGE CITY, KS 70%
MIAMI, FL 70%
MILFORD, UT 70%
WAKE ISLAND, PC 70%
DENVER, CO 69%
LANDER, WY 68%
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 68%
SAN DIEGO, CA 68%
WINNEMUCCA, NV 68%
CONCORDIA, KS 67%
KAHULUI, HI 67%
NORTH PLATTE, NE 67%
SAN JUAN, PR 67%
APALACHICOLA, FL 66%
CHEYENNE, WY 66%
MACON, GA 66%
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 66%
SAN FRANCISCO C.O., CA 66%
TAMPA, FL 66%
VALENTINE, NE 65%
WICHITA, KS 65%
BOISE, ID 64%
COLUMBIA, SC 64%
MEMPHIS, TN 64%
POCATELLO, ID 64%
SHREVEPORT, LA 64%
TUPELO, MS 64%
CHARLESTON AP, SC 63%
HURON, SD 63%
JACKSONVILLE, FL 63%
RAPID CITY, SD 63%
RICHMOND, VA 63%
SHERIDAN, WY 63%
WILMINGTON, NC 63%
CHARLOTTE, NC 62%
GALVESTON, TX 62%
LITTLE ROCK, AR 62%
SAVANNAH, GA 62%
TULSA, OK 62%
CAIRO, IL 61%
DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX 61%
FORT SMITH, AR 61%
GREAT FALLS, MT 61%
JACKSON, MS 61%
LINCOLN, NE 61%
SIOUX CITY, IA 61%
TOPEKA, KS 61%
ATLANTA, GA 60%
AUSTIN/BERGSTROM, TX 60%
AUSTIN/CITY, TX 60%
BILLINGS, MT 60%
BROWNSVILLE, TX 60%
CAPE HATTERAS, NC 60%
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 60%
GREENSBORO-WNSTN-SALM, NC 60%
GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG AP, SC 60%
KANSAS CITY, MO 60%
NORFOLK, VA 60%
OMAHA (NORTH), NE 60%
PENSACOLA, FL 60%
SAN ANTONIO, TX 60%
SPRINGFIELD, MO 60%
WILLISTON, ND 60%

No one argued that Northwest Arkansas had more sunshine than anywhere else.

The question was whether Northwest Arkansas gets more sunshine than the Northwest Pacific area. It does.

And the argument was whether Northwest Arkansas gets sunshine from December to April. You said no. I invite you to look out your window right now and tell me the sun is not shining.
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Old 02-17-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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Someone was talking about real data. Here it is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. First, Sperling's Best Places to Live says FY has 217 sunny days per year, or 59% of the days are sunny. The first town on the NOAA list at 59% is Asheville, NC. Thank you for pushing me to confirm what I have always suspected, that the sun only shines in this place about 6 out of every 10 days. These towns all have more sunshine than FY:

YUMA, AZ 90%
REDDING, CA 88%
LAS VEGAS, NV 85%
PHOENIX, AZ 85%
TUCSON, AZ 85%
EL PASO, TX 84%
FRESNO, CA 79%
RENO, NV 79%
FLAGSTAFF, AZ 78%
SACRAMENTO, CA 78%
ALBUQUERQUE, NM 76%
KEY WEST, FL 76%
PUEBLO, CO 76%
MIDLAND-ODESSA, TX 74%
ROSWELL, NM 74%
AMARILLO, TX 73%
ELY, NV 73%
LOS ANGELES C.O., CA 73%
LAKE CHARLES, LA 72%
LUBBOCK, TX 72%
NORTH LITTLE ROCK, AR 72%
GRAND JUNCTION, CO 71%
HONOLULU, HI 71%
JOHNSTON ISLAND, PC 71%
ABILENE, TX 70%
DODGE CITY, KS 70%
MIAMI, FL 70%
MILFORD, UT 70%
WAKE ISLAND, PC 70%
DENVER, CO 69%
LANDER, WY 68%
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK 68%
SAN DIEGO, CA 68%
WINNEMUCCA, NV 68%
CONCORDIA, KS 67%
KAHULUI, HI 67%
NORTH PLATTE, NE 67%
SAN JUAN, PR 67%
APALACHICOLA, FL 66%
CHEYENNE, WY 66%
MACON, GA 66%
SALT LAKE CITY, UT 66%
SAN FRANCISCO C.O., CA 66%
TAMPA, FL 66%
VALENTINE, NE 65%
WICHITA, KS 65%
BOISE, ID 64%
COLUMBIA, SC 64%
MEMPHIS, TN 64%
POCATELLO, ID 64%
SHREVEPORT, LA 64%
TUPELO, MS 64%
CHARLESTON AP, SC 63%
HURON, SD 63%
JACKSONVILLE, FL 63%
RAPID CITY, SD 63%
RICHMOND, VA 63%
SHERIDAN, WY 63%
WILMINGTON, NC 63%
CHARLOTTE, NC 62%
GALVESTON, TX 62%
LITTLE ROCK, AR 62%
SAVANNAH, GA 62%
TULSA, OK 62%
CAIRO, IL 61%
DALLAS-FORT WORTH, TX 61%
FORT SMITH, AR 61%
GREAT FALLS, MT 61%
JACKSON, MS 61%
LINCOLN, NE 61%
SIOUX CITY, IA 61%
TOPEKA, KS 61%
ATLANTA, GA 60%
AUSTIN/BERGSTROM, TX 60%
AUSTIN/CITY, TX 60%
BILLINGS, MT 60%
BROWNSVILLE, TX 60%
CAPE HATTERAS, NC 60%
CORPUS CHRISTI, TX 60%
GREENSBORO-WNSTN-SALM, NC 60%
GREENVILLE-SPARTANBURG AP, SC 60%
KANSAS CITY, MO 60%
NORFOLK, VA 60%
OMAHA (NORTH), NE 60%
PENSACOLA, FL 60%
SAN ANTONIO, TX 60%
SPRINGFIELD, MO 60%
WILLISTON, ND 60%
Maybe I am blind, but I don't see DC on this list for starters. I also have been around enough to know: a study done today is only as good as today: you quote something that list "best places to live" well another one will come out next week listing totally different places. Sorry I can't buy your argument and I don't see anyplace where there is a mention of 4 months with a film over the city or whatever you were referring to. you have your view, which is your priority and that is what makes City Data so interesting. Just don't be surprised when others differ with you. We are realize there are a lot of places with sunnier winters than our region, but we do not have gloom 4 months out of the year.
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Old 02-17-2014, 12:10 PM
 
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Maybe I am blind, but I don't see DC on this list for starters. I also have been around enough to know: a study done today is only as good as today: you quote something that list "best places to live" well another one will come out next week listing totally different places. Sorry I can't buy your argument and I don't see anyplace where there is a mention of 4 months with a film over the city or whatever you were referring to. you have your view, which is your priority and that is what makes City Data so interesting. Just don't be surprised when others differ with you. We are realize there are a lot of places with sunnier winters than our region, but we do not have gloom 4 months out of the year.
Here's a comparison between Fayetteville, AR and Washington DC. DC gets less sun.

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Old 02-17-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas via ATX
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Agreed. I lived outside Arkansas most of my life. I don't see this "dark and gloomy" several months a year the other poster refers to. In fact, today its completely clear, sunny and 60s and it has been for a few days in a row now.

Fayetteville does get some foggy, misty winter days, which I think are cool. The fog can stick around and hang in the mountain valleys a little more than it would in other topography.

Fayetteville gets four true seasons, which is one of the things I like most about it. The winter can be cold at times, but its never very cold for very long. This has been a rather harsh winter, but it still stays above freezing most of the time, and you'll always get a few stretches like this week when the temps get into the 60s.

The west coast is prone to more "long periods of predictable weather" such as the "June gloom" that SoCal experiences, with rain for several days on end. Here the changes seem to happen rather frequently, and the weather pattern never sticks in one spot for long periods of time.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:10 AM
 
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I lived in SoCal for a while. Your June gloom thing is a myth, as are most myths about SoCal. I think it's humorous that people are trying to tear down the west coast here in an effort to prop up a place that gets sun only about half the time.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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"Only" six out of 10 days of sunshine is good in NWA, because cloudy days actually enhance the green of the awesome landscape. Bright, glaring sunshine actually washes out the colors of trees, flowers, moss, ferns, etc., which are supplied in abundance in NWA.

After a rain, the mist rises from the valleys between the mountains, and is very....well, I can't think of a good word, but it is beautiful and mysterious looking. Rain also coats the peaceful wooded and pastoral landscapes with a lovely sheen...not to mention how it makes the creeks and waterfalls sing! If you're blessed to live where you can see woods or rolling pastures or a creek from your window, well....a good book, a crackling fire, a comfy chair, and a cup of tea are a real treat on a gloomy, rainy day.

And hey...you can't truly appreciate sunshine unless you also experience the clouds.

Six out of 10 sounds about the perfect ratio to me.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Wow. I was trying to research this exact question when I stumbled across your post. I have lived in Fayetteville often on for several years. I went to school at the University of Arkansas for both undergrad in law school and then worked three years in the area after law school. I just returned to the area after 15 years in the military. I have some perspective on your question because I have lived in San Diego twice, the Washington DC area three times, and on the North Carolina coast once. I grew up in Houston Texas. All those places had more sunlight than Fayetteville does. And there's one thing that seems to occur in Fayetteville that I've never seen anywhere else. Between about December 1 and April 1 a dark gloominess unlike anything I've experienced anywhere else settles onto this area. During that period I suspect that Fayetteville has the fewest days of sunlight compared to almost any other place. And I've heard several other people complain about this. It's like an incessant, dark, gray sky for four months. It was like that when I was in school in the 80s to 90s and it is like that now. So compared to Oregon it's probably more sunny year-round, but prepare yourself for a dark, gray, gloomy four months every year.
Seems to me you are doing a better job of describing places like Pittsburgh and St. Louis winters than the NWA area.

I have lived in St. Louis, MO, Columbia, MO, Pittsburgh, PA, and Orlando, FL. This doesn't have the amount of sunny days as Orlando, but it is surprisingly close. I am amazed at how sunny it is here most of the year. This year has had a few more cloudy days because of the extreme cold weather, but last year it was sunny at least 3-4 days a week even in the winter. In the past 4 days it has been sunny every day.
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Old 02-18-2014, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Agreed. I lived outside Arkansas most of my life. I don't see this "dark and gloomy" several months a year the other poster refers to. In fact, today its completely clear, sunny and 60s and it has been for a few days in a row now.

Fayetteville does get some foggy, misty winter days, which I think are cool. The fog can stick around and hang in the mountain valleys a little more than it would in other topography.

Fayetteville gets four true seasons, which is one of the things I like most about it. The winter can be cold at times, but its never very cold for very long. This has been a rather harsh winter, but it still stays above freezing most of the time, and you'll always get a few stretches like this week when the temps get into the 60s.

The west coast is prone to more "long periods of predictable weather" such as the "June gloom" that SoCal experiences, with rain for several days on end. Here the changes seem to happen rather frequently, and the weather pattern never sticks in one spot for long periods of time.
and if it isn't actually raining during late May and early June, the sky can be so moist and overcast that sweaters are needed in the early morning but by mid afternoon we have to get down to our almost nothing cloths. The heaviest fog I have ever seen in Dec to Feb in the iE part of So California. of course it can be pretty heavy heading up the old hwy 99 as well. The fog we get here is nothing compared to that.
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Old 03-02-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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It's probably very average. Not a lot of sun, but not like the Seattle area either.
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