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Old 11-12-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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This reminds me of the story about Lou Holtz when he took the head football coach at Arkansas.

He took the job at the end of the 1976 season for retiring head coach Frank Broyles.

Broyles was still athletic director and he told Lou that winters were mild enough in NW Arkansas that "a lot of the time he wouldn't even need a coat". Then Holtz experienced the notorious winter of 1977-78.

He later quipped, "Frank was right. I didn't need a coat here in NWA, I needed a Parka."
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, Isanti County, MN
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Ive spent most of my life living in Minnesota and Colorado. Whoever thinks of this part of Ar as a southern winter climate like I did before moving here is very mistaken, it's midwest all the way.
You’re not comparing winters in NWA to those in Minnesota and Colorado are you? Just checking. I mean, it obviously gets chilly and snows there occasionally, but labeling it any kind of legitimate Midwestern winter climate is a heckuva stretch, IMO.

This cold snap going on now is a freak event for this time of year, and it’s affecting a large portion of the country.
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Riding a rock floating through space
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Youíre not comparing winters in NWA to those in Minnesota and Colorado are you? Just checking. I mean, it obviously gets chilly and snows there occasionally, but labeling it any kind of legitimate Midwestern winter climate is a heckuva stretch, IMO.

This cold snap going on now is a freak event for this time of year, and itís affecting a large portion of the country.
Of course not, are you kidding? I grew up near the twin cities in the 70s. Like I said, several days of single digits and many days of double digits, even without snow just wasn't what I was expecting. I feel I've done my time in hell (cold winter climate) but apparently hell isn't done with me. I've no plans to move to Florida from here, just gotta deal with it and be glad it isn't worse.
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Old 11-12-2018, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains Arkansas
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Except for the transplants, NWA isn't remotely midwestern. It's just regular upper south culturally and geographically. I've never seen much there that resembles the midwest except for stuff you see in anywhere America.
Weather wise, last winter wasn't anything really. I spent some time up in Minnesota and Wisconsin last year, and the difference is quite stark. They didn't exacyly have record breaking winters either if I recall. Even mid-Missouri and Iowa are very different.
This year, it's too early to say, but it might be shaping up to be a little cooler. Probably not a bad thing.
Minnesota and Wisconsin are northern states known for cold winters. If you are going to compare most areas to their winters, most places would seem mild. I don't think that was the point.

And being a person from the south, NWA is not "southern" in culture.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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This reminds me of the story about Lou Holtz when he took the head football coach at Arkansas.

He took the job at the end of the 1976 season for retiring head coach Frank Broyles.

Broyles was still athletic director and he told Lou that winters were mild enough in NW Arkansas that "a lot of the time he wouldn't even need a coat". Then Holtz experienced the notorious winter of 1977-78.

He later quipped, "Frank was right. I didn't need a coat here in NWA, I needed a Parka."
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Cambridge, Isanti County, MN
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Of course not, are you kidding? I grew up near the twin cities in the 70s. Like I said, several days of single digits and many days of double digits, even without snow just wasn't what I was expecting. I feel I've done my time in hell (cold winter climate) but apparently hell isn't done with me. I've no plans to move to Florida from here, just gotta deal with it and be glad it isn't worse.
I'll drop you a line when it's 0 here and 50 or 60 in NWA (which it will be at some point) to make you feel better.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I am freezing just thinking about the temps this coming week and do not remember many if any early Nov nights in the teens. Is this a sign of an early and colder winter than normal? I know, the following week is supposed to be back to normal, but it seems like we just went from above normal early fall to below normal mid fall? I am not complaining BTW, I love winter but I am not excited about winter before Thanksgiving.
I saw this thread title on the board, and thought I'd drop in to comment, even though I'm not in Arkansas. I thought it was interesting, that you all are having an unusually cold fall, as we, in NM are, too. October is usually mild where we are, and early November--cool, but not cold, yet. This year, "fall" (vs. s0-called Indian summer) came surprisingly early. And we've already had several light snowfalls, and one moderate one. This has never happened since I moved here in 2001.

I'm not complaining; this is better than excessive heat or drought, like they've been having on the West Coast. But I find it interesting, that we're having the opposite trend to the West Coast.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:54 PM
 
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Minnesota and Wisconsin are northern states known for cold winters. If you are going to compare most areas to their winters, most places would seem mild. I don't think that was the point.

And being a person from the south, NWA is not "southern" in culture.
You are right, I wasn't comparing, but merely giving a base for my experience of cold weather. 22 years living in MN, 17 years in Colorado. I know what 30 below temp/90 below wind chill feels like. I bet sub has no idea.
I spent 4 years in Houston and found the winters wonderful. For some stupid reason I thought Ar winters would be more like that than Lawrence Ks, but I was way off - it's actually harsher than Ks. It sure doesn't help that natural gas isn't available in Bella Vista.

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Old 11-13-2018, 11:10 PM
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You are right, I wasn't comparing, but merely giving a base for my experience of cold weather. 22 years living in MN, 17 years in Colorado. I know what 30 below temp/90 below wind chill feels like. I bet sub has no idea.
I spent 4 years in Houston and found the winters wonderful. For some stupid reason I thought Ar winters would be more like that than Lawrence Ks, but I was way off - it's actually harsher than Ks. It sure doesn't help that natural gas isn't available in Bella Vista.
Your experience with Lawrence must have been during a mild stretch if you think Arkansas is worse.
I've spent a good amount of time in the upper midwest and northern plains even in the winter due to my work. Bemidji. Fargo. I've lived up that way for a few years as well as KC for several.
I know what cold is.
NWA is nothing like any of that. Maybe a milder version of mid-MO, but that's about it.
Cold isn't for everyone. I get that. Didn't mean to cause a stink about it.
If this winter is colder than usual I say it's probably not a bad thing because I do know what harsh winters are like, and Arkansas simply isn't capable of being that bad when it comes to winter. Also, this area is too buggy as it is. No need for less cold.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:37 AM
 
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Your experience with Lawrence must have been during a mild stretch if you think Arkansas is worse.
I've spent a good amount of time in the upper midwest and northern plains even in the winter due to my work. Bemidji. Fargo. I've lived up that way for a few years as well as KC for several.
I know what cold is.
NWA is nothing like any of that. Maybe a milder version of mid-MO, but that's about it.
Cold isn't for everyone. I get that. Didn't mean to cause a stink about it.
If this winter is colder than usual I say it's probably not a bad thing because I do know what harsh winters are like, and Arkansas simply isn't capable of being that bad when it comes to winter. Also, this area is too buggy as it is. No need for less cold.
My grandfather lived most of his life in Alaska. He came down to Arkansas a few weeks in the winter. He said "he froze his b***s off."

If you have propane I recommend a wood stove if you can or a dual fuel system ( uses a heat pump and propane). By the way, what is the going rate for propane? I'm at 60% so haven't checked yet.
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