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Old 10-03-2013, 12:13 AM
 
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Old 10-03-2013, 01:19 AM
 
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I was gonna say Richter and Ryden but they're already mentioned. So, Takashi Murakami (originally a painter but multimedia now). A couple of people said Thomas Kinkade is "not an artist"; I would like to add that he passed on to the cozy cabin in the sky (died 2012).
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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A couple of people said Thomas Kinkade is "not an artist";
I think he was as we understand the word 'artist' but I'd wonder if criticism of him would have been the same if he did not say 'market' himself so much to the public at large. Kind of ironic in that an artist's popularity really indubitably rates high in that 'mass' market. Things is it looks like in the profession of 'ART', it's a no-no to deliberately go out there by 'advertising' and actively canvassing for sales.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Bed-Stuy & Bushwick
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I can't think of any painters in the traditional sense, but I am a fan of Kazuo Oga, but he paints animation backgrounds (beautifully, IMO).
Nice. Off topic, but I more like the art and animation style of Kazuto Nakazawa. I believe he even did the Oren Ishii animation from Kill Bill.

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On second look Oga's work is damn good. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Bed-Stuy & Bushwick
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I think he was as we understand the word 'artist' but I'd wonder if criticism of him would have been the same if he did not say 'market' himself so much to the public at large. Kind of ironic in that an artist's popularity really indubitably rates high in that 'mass' market. Things is it looks like in the profession of 'ART', it's a no-no to deliberately go out there by 'advertising' and actively canvassing for sales.
It's fine to do that. He just went way over the top with it.
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Old 10-06-2013, 09:46 AM
 
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I think he was as we understand the word 'artist' but I'd wonder if criticism of him would have been the same if he did not say 'market' himself so much to the public at large. Kind of ironic in that an artist's popularity really indubitably rates high in that 'mass' market. Things is it looks like in the profession of 'ART', it's a no-no to deliberately go out there by 'advertising' and actively canvassing for sales.
I think the reason Kincaide advertised is not the reason he failed to rate. It had nothing at all to do with his efforts being unacceptable to those in the art world. The reason is the product he produced, the cutesy, Christmas card scenes of sugar plum sweetness. The sort of picture people like if they know nothing about Fine Art.
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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I think the reason Kincaide advertised is not the reason he failed to rate. It had nothing at all to do with his efforts being unacceptable to those in the art world. The reason is the product he produced, the cutesy, Christmas card scenes of sugar plum sweetness. The sort of picture people like if they know nothing about Fine Art.
Well, he always said that he was into making mass market type of work. I think the reason he was disliked was his propensity for shoving his philosophies down other artists throats that they should think more like him and also the way he pushed his stuff "highest selling artist...more than so and so and so and so COMBINED!".
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:00 PM
 
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Well, he always said that he was into making mass market type of work. I think the reason he was disliked was his propensity for shoving his philosophies down other artists throats that they should think more like him and also the way he pushed his stuff "highest selling artist...more than so and so and so and so COMBINED!".
I have no quarrel at all with what anyone thinks if that's what they want. I have no idea what Kincaide said about anything. My references are to his work, not to anything he said. His work told me all I needed to know. The people who had him shove his philosophies down their throats must have liked it if it caused them to believe what he said. If that caused them to dislike him, it didn't take much.
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:35 PM
 
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You know even if Kinkade was criticized for his work his popularity by a specific part of the population really kind of showed what they wanted in a piece of art in their homes. Those Christmasey scenes sure give a notion of some kind of nostalgia for a past time long gone. Kinkade apparently tapped into that and fed into those dreamy reveries.
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