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Old 06-04-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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Dementia Stopped Peter Max From Painting. For Some, That Spelled a Lucrative Opportunity.
Now Peter Max’s associates are trading lurid allegations of kidnapping, hired goons, attempted murder by Brazil nut and art fraud on the high seas


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/b...-auctions.html


https://www.insider.com/artist-peter...rk-west-2019-5
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Old 06-04-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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Oh no....

I was a fan years ago, had a cookbook he wrote and illustrated...
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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lurid was his art
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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We have gone on a few cruises and attend some of the art auctions. Park West definitely pushes Peter Max art work. I never fell for it. I saw things done by others that I liked, and even bought some, because I liked them, not because I thought they would be a good investment.
Sure, I might have paid a bit more than they were really worth, but I would have never seen them if I hadn’t been on the cruise. The only thing that upsets me about Park West is that, if I had taken the same amount of money that my wife and I have spent on art, and played with it in the casino, we would have gotten free cruises, even if we had won more than we put at risk. PW does very little in the way of loyalty rewards.
We still go on cruises, but we probably won’t be buying any more art from them after seeing this report.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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There's nothing at all new about about apprentices doing all the actual work.

Andy Warhol never pulled a silkscreen in his life. His apprentices did all of them, and it's well-known common knowledge. But it hasn't hurt the prices of those printed images at all; Warhol prints now are in the both very expensive and very hot sellers.

Robert Kinkaide is another who actually depended on his apprentices. His prints were often done at an out-of-house print shop on commercial presses, with other, more expensive series done by his apprentices, another more expensive series where Kinkade added a few dashes of paint on a print and called it an original, and Kinkaid even had apprentices creating hand-painted duplicates from one of his original oils he would sign.

In all of these cases, it's the signature that becomes more valuable than the artwork. That's a relatively recent and a peculiarly American phenomenon.

Over in Europe, painters like Talouse Lautrec, who designed dozens of printed posters and never had a thing to do with how or who printed them, still sell very well for high prices. There, it's the artist's design that remains the most important element, not the hands that produced the final product.

I doubt that Peter Max sales will be hurt either. Like Warhol, his original oils are always going to be more valuable than any of his prints and a lot more rare than Warhols. But Max became famous due to his prints, which brought him his fame, not his oils.

Guys like Max and Warhol are like Henri Talouse Lautrec; it's the design, not the print, that counts in the value, especially if the provenance is solid. While Peter Max's style can be imitated by others, it's still very hard to duplicate.

I do feel sorry for the old guy though. I hope he's being well cared for.
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Old 06-13-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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And his wife, Mary, just committed suicide a few days ago.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...outputType=amp
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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And his wife, Mary, just committed suicide a few days ago.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...outputType=amp
Dang, that's sad! Sometimes a famous person's decline is just deep tragedy in all four corners, with no good way out.
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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We have gone on a few cruises and attend some of the art auctions. Park West definitely pushes Peter Max art work. I never fell for it. I saw things done by others that I liked, and even bought some, because I liked them, not because I thought they would be a good investment.
Sure, I might have paid a bit more than they were really worth, but I would have never seen them if I hadn’t been on the cruise. The only thing that upsets me about Park West is that, if I had taken the same amount of money that my wife and I have spent on art, and played with it in the casino, we would have gotten free cruises, even if we had won more than we put at risk. PW does very little in the way of loyalty rewards.
We still go on cruises, but we probably won’t be buying any more art from them after seeing this report.
Well, I'm delighted if someone found my post personally relevant.

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Old 06-21-2019, 09:27 PM
 
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And his wife, Mary, just committed suicide a few days ago.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...outputType=amp
Thanks - I was just about to post that. As if things weren't melodramatic enough!
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:16 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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And his wife, Mary, just committed suicide a few days ago.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...outputType=amp
This is very sad. Family members squabbling and fighting over control of Max's assets, which are his art. Being fabulously successful really can have its downside.

Given that their son had been accusing Mary of all kinds of things, I wouldn't necessarily assume the death was a suicide. I'd wonder if the son somehow set it up.

Max was in my town about 10 years ago for a gallery show opening of his art, and was doing fine. It goes to show how quickly people can decline, once dementia starts to set in.
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