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Old 08-01-2010, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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The title pretty much says it all. I have a car but every so often when it breaks down I'll take the bus or whatever public transit system is offered. How is the public transit system in the Tampa Bay area and Jacksonville area? How do the two measure up in a showdown against each other?
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:55 AM
 
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Tampa/St Pete in a landslide, not so much because of the quality of the transit systems, rather the overall walkability/non-car dependency of the area, as well as the scope of the transit systems.
http://www.psta.net/index.html
HART - Hillsborough Area Regional Transit

Jacksonville is so spread out and other than a couple of neighborhoods (San Marco or Mandarin for example) very spread out. Its transit system is also less developed in terms of geographic coverage.

South Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Largo and the beach communities (Clearwater Beach, The Redingtons, Madeira Beach, and St Pete Beach) are all quite walkable and have good transit options. The beach communities also benefit from the Suncoast Beach Trolley, which is an excellent way to get around. Suncoast Beach Trolley SM (http://www.psta.net/beachtrolley.html - broken link)
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Old 08-01-2010, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Tampa
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I second the Bay Area. I know a few HART routes run very late and start up very early. I've been on a bus after midnight in South Tampa.
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Tampa/St Pete in a landslide, not so much because of the quality of the transit systems, rather the overall walkability/non-car dependency of the area, as well as the scope of the transit systems.


Jacksonville is so spread out and other than a couple of neighborhoods (San Marco or Mandarin for example) very spread out. Its transit system is also less developed in terms of geographic coverage.
No Offense, but Kyle is quite off on his analysis. The bus systems of both places are quite dismal and both places overall are spread out beyond control. Tampa has a cool streetcar that runs from Ybor to Channelside that mainly seems to cater to tourists, but can be useful for those living in that urban area. And like he said the Beaches have that Suncoast Trolley. I am not here to bash Tampa St. Pete's transit.

However, Jacksonville has denser, more urban and walkable communities in the urban core than Tampa-St. Pete. Hyde Park in Tampa has walkable areas and is nice, but overall the area cannot compete with Jacksonville's plethora of historic (oldest city overall in FL) and dense neighborhoods, such as Riverside, San Marco, Springfield, Avondale, etc and our beaches are just as walkable as St. Pete's. Most beaches in metropolitan areas are walkable except for private ones. Also we have a monorail system connecting our downtown areas (that hardly anyone uses) and a trolley that already goes from downtown to Riverside and is being expanded to Avondale (receives substantial use) and we have just received federal funds to start BRT and we are about to receive federal funds for a commuter rail system (probably in 12-18 months).

Lastly, Mandarin is way far out there and has horrible traffic and is the opposite of walkable, a clear sign that Kyle is a little misguided in what he speaks. St. Augustine south of Jax and Fernandina north of Jax are also very walkable and are the 2 most historic communities in the state. Overall traffic in Tampa-St. Pete is worse because it is a larger metropolitan area and Tampa has most of the jobs leaving Pinellas County to commute over and back (rush hour over the Bay area causeways can be pretty bad, so avoid that commute if you move there).
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