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Why can't you just judge people as individual human beings, not as where they came from? I am going to post my hand made crime list from another thread...

[QUOTE;]Also, if it helps any, let me put Florida's top 10 largest cities, and rank them by 2005 C/D Crime index (from highest to lowest).Natl. Avg-325.2

1.Orlando (928.0) Central Florida
2. St. Petersburg (727.3) Central Florida
3.Miami (725.7) South Florida
4.Tampa (695.8) Central Florida
5. Fort Lauderdale (600.8) South Florida
6.Tallahassee (568.8) North Florida
7. Jacksonville (506.8) North Florida
8. Hollywood (383.3) South Florida. Plenty of New Yorkers and Hispanics, and a fairly poor city as well.
9.Hialeah (350.2) South Florida Over 90 percent Hispanic.
10. Pembroke Pines (211.3) South Florida. One of America's safer cities, and minority majority.Many of the whites there are rude and nasty New Yawkas and tons of hispanics

Interesting to see South Florida cities were at the bottom 3, and central Fla cities were the top 2.

Now,10 largest County crimes per 100k. State Avg. is 4,632 crimes per 100k.
1.Orange (6,347.2) Central Fla
2. Duval (6,081.7) North Fla
3.Miami Dade (5,964.1) South Fla
4.Hillsborough (5336.7) Central Fla
5.Pinellas (4,999.6) Central Fla
6.Palm Beach (4953.3) South Fla (Crimes mostly occur in the Florida born African American community)
(State Average, 4,632)
7. Volusia (4,337.5) Central Fla
8.Broward (4295.9) South Fla. Its full of rude and nasty New Yawkas like us too not to mention one out of 5 Broward residents are hispanic
9. Polk (4,237.3) Central Fla
10. Brevard (4,033.5) Central Fla

Broward seems to get knocked by EVERYONE for crime, including Palm Beach County residents. But why? The numbers show it to be near the national average, and about right for an urban area, not to mention below the Florida average.[QUOTE;]

I made this list all by myself, and just wanted to prove a point. My main goal in this thread was not to point fingers, but for everybody to simply unite as human beings and stop judging each other, as the numbers do not seem to be favoring anywhere with large ethnic or transplanted populations (or any type of population really). New Yorkers; there are good southerners out there, and Natives, there are good Hispanics and New Yorkers out there. Just treat your neighbor as you would like to be treated, regardless of where they are from, and the results may surprise you. . I do agree that people in Miami-Dade can be rude, and that the immigrants need to learn to speak English, but realize that some have learned the language and are very nice people. I have never encountered this extreme rudeness that people speak of in Florida outside of Miami, and I live in "congested, rude, and crowded" Broward County. IT seems as if people are nice to me here if you come with an open mind.

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I found out that in 2005,there were 3,899.0 crimes per 100,000 in the United States as a whole through my research, just to reference. Urban areas will always have a slightly above average presence of crime.

United States Crime Rates 1960 - 2005

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Anyone find it interesting that Hialeah was the second safest of the 10 largest cities in Florida? I think crime must be under reported there. Then again, I don't really hear about that much happening there.

[ddlove01]

Interesting post, I wish the 2006 crime rates were available...We've had massive growth in our area, a year and a half can sometimes make a difference. Heck, in 10 years, our city/county doubled its population!

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Originally Posted by ddlove01

Interesting post, I wish the 2006 crime rates were available...We've had massive growth in our area, a year and a half can sometimes make a difference. Heck, in 10 years, our city/county doubled its population!

The counties are based on 2006 data , but the national average was based on 2005 data (from what I know, crime overall has increased between 2005 and 2006 significantly throughout the U.S; interesting that it dropped slightly in Broward County and a couple of others). I do hope to see 2006 data for municipalites, but from what I heard, about 20 or so experienced a drop in overall crime over here, but we experienced an increase in violent crime. We still have a significantly lower murder rate here than most of urban Florida, but it went from like high 60s to 89 in 1 year. Still better than PBC, which has 500k less people, yet had 3 more murders, and we had about 40 murders less than Orange, which we have 600k more people! Still a far cry from 2003, when we only had in the 30s!

PSL has been consistently a safe city per capita, though, even amongst the growth, while Broward is just finally starting to emerge with some of America's safest larger cities, like Weston and Coral Springs. I doubt that PSL has experienced a major spike in crime. They have probably experienced more of it, but not relative to its population.

[MsV]

WOW, great post Ft Lauderdale! Rep pts to you for the effort involved and for reminding us of the human condition ~ you are so right! Good Luck

[vpcats]

Did I read that first post correctly?
Are you saying that we are rude in Miami Dade??????

I have never encountered this extreme rudeness that people speak of in Florida outside of Miami, ]

I'm not moving!

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Originally Posted by vpcats

Did I read that first post correctly?
Are you saying that we are rude in Miami Dade??????

I have never encountered this extreme rudeness that people speak of in Florida outside of Miami, ]

I'm not moving!

You know, maybe it's just my luck. Just like some others have had bad experiences in Broward/ Orlando/ anywhere. People can have good and bad experiences everywhere, but I have just found that the people are not too nice in Miami when I head down there. I certainly encounter nice people, but overall, the whole language barrier thing gives me a really creepy feeling, and when I went to BLOOMINGDALES in the Aventura Mall and got laughed at for being a "gringo" by the store employees who started laughing at me and said something in spanish after they called me "gringo". I just don't go to Dade anymore, I commonly end up having really bad experiences like that all over. Like I said, it was just my experience, so I know there are plenty of good people in Miami-Dade living quite happily like yourself (and I know a couple!).. Not everyone is rude down there, but I can see where some people are coming from about Miami in my experiences...It probably has a lot to do with what neighborhood you live in too. Dade is huge!

[debntx]

Pensacola...Fort Walton...Destin...Seaside...Panama City - wonderful areas to live and raise a family. Northwest Florida is pretty low crime compared to many other places in Florida. Anyone know where Pensacola and Panama rank on the crime list?

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Originally Posted by debntx

Pensacola...Fort Walton...Destin...Seaside...Panama City - wonderful areas to live and raise a family. Northwest Florida is pretty low crime compared to many other places in Florida. Anyone know where Pensacola and Panama rank on the crime list?

I will find the stats and post as soon as I can.

CD Natl Average- 325.2, Florida average crimes per 100k-4652

Fort Walton Beach (349.1) CD


Oakloosa County had
3,137.5 crimes per 100,000 in 2006. Thats pretty safe.

Panama City (495.3) CD

Bay county had
4,703.5 crimes per 100,000. A little higher than the state average (and higher than the frequently knocked Broward County)

On the other hand, Escambia County had a bit higher crime rate than the state average (and much higher, once again, than the frequently knocked Broward County)
4,962.1 crimes per 100,000.
Pensacola (427.2) CD

A lot of rural counties in NW Florida were VERY Safe, however, and a great place to raise a family.