[Spring Hillian]

Yes, thats true, income requirements have to be met. Usually not a problem.

Yep, been to a few group homes.

My question to you is WHERE IS THE $ GOING TO COME FROM if it's simply not there? That is where we are heading. To NOTHING. Something is always better than nothing.

The quotes you listed are great. Maybe those guys can fork over a few bucks to help the cause.

Seems everybody here has a beef against any kinds of cuts, but still can't tell us when enough becomes enough. What happens when the well dries up totally and then there will zip, zero, nada, nil. THEN WHAT?

Cuts in spending at all levels are needed and required.

Originally Posted by blitzpooch

Uh, no. That's not true. It is dependent on the income of the parents.

So then the answer is to have everyone live in a state of grandeur at the cost of everyone else?

Breathtakingly inaccurate. How you ever visited a group home? Do you suppose it's better to just dump them in an institution or a hospital? Do you know how many disabled individuals are being taken care of by parents who are aging and disabled themselves? We're not funding spas here.

Hey, let's bring back death camps while we're at it for the "undesirables". They're just "a constant drain". God help us. I'm so sick of the Tea Party/Libertarian types who sound off like this but make no contributions to charities that serve these individuals, or volunteer to help overloaded families. The churches are never going to have enough in the way of resources. The only way to get respite and supports is to pay for them...not easy for these families who usually have one parent who sacrificed job or career to be home to take care of their child.


Proverbs 29:7
The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.

Isaiah 1:17
Learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow.

Isaiah 10:1-2
Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless.

Matthew 25:40
The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

I think the theme is pretty obvious. We will be judged as a society as to how we treated "the least of these". They weren't getting much in the first place and now they want to twist the knife even further.

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

So then the answer is to have everyone live in a state of grandeur at the cost of everyone else?

A "state of grandeur"?
Really?
If the disabled are living in that kind of manner, then what would you call Trumps lifestyle?

[Spring Hillian]

I call it something he worked hard to keep.

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

I call it something he worked hard to keep.

that state of grandeur comment was disingenuous, to say the least.

[Spring Hillian]

Perhaps.

Originally Posted by kshe95girl

that state of grandeur comment was disingenuous, to say the least.

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Perhaps.

No perhaps about it.

[blitzpooch]

[quote=Spring Hillian;18582866]Yes, thats true, income requirements have to be met. Usually not a problem.

WRONG. We are an average income family and do not qualify for a single thing. Whatever he gets is from school and that is very minimal. People don't get that if you spend the time and yes, the $$ to intervene at a young age, the greater the chance for employability and greater independence.

Yep, been to a few group homes.

So I guess you know they're not running a country club there.

My question to you is WHERE IS THE $ GOING TO COME FROM if it's simply not there? That is where we are heading. To NOTHING. Something is always better than nothing.

There is plenty of waste that can be identified. Starting with some of those fancy Sarasota art festivals. It IS going to cost something whether they stay in a group home, get dumped in an institution or not. Or would you prefer we just let them out in the streets?

The quotes you listed are great. Maybe those guys can fork over a few bucks to help the cause.

Well, that's the problem. Libertarians and unfortunately most Christians talk a good game of charity but actions don't back up the rhetoric.

[vaughanwilliams]

Originally Posted by Maggi07

What's going to happen to these people? They have no place to go. They can't pull up their bootstraps and suck it up. They CAN'T.


"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members" ~Mahatma Ghandi

"Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?"

"Many can't go there, and many would rather die."

"If they'd rather die", said Scrooge,"they had better do it and decrease the surplus population."

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[vaughanwilliams]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Companies operating 100% tax free? Come now. You know as well as I do that does not happen.

Show me an instance where it does.

General Electric comes to mind.


GE: 7,000 tax returns, $0 U.S. tax bill - Apr. 16, 2010

[algia]

Yes I know, I am also a parent of two normal kids....you're not getting it.....my normal kids doesn't need speech theraphy worth $900 for 45 minutes...you do the math as to what kind of salary one needs to have to afford THAT!



The problem is that people who should NOT be sucking to the Gov are allowed to do so and the ones who actually need Govs help cant get it because of those ppl!

There are parents who make too much to qualify for Gov services and to little to afford employer insurance that generally does NOT cover disabilities! what should they do? please do tell....

I would go to Tallahassee if I knew that those idiots will DO something about it like in France....Good Luck with that here! Greed Rules!

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Same situation a parent of a "normal" child would have and has without any government support of any kind.

Hey, if it affects you, drive up to Tallahassee and protest.

There are too many people tugging at the government pocketbook and the money is just not there anymore. That is the fact.