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Old 05-14-2011, 03:04 AM
 
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MAJOR CITIES IN FLORIDA:

Fort Laurderdale: 8.2%
Jacksonville: 10.3%
Miami: 13.1%
Orlando: 10.2%
Tampa: 11.0%
Tallahassee: 7.6%

SOURCE: Bureau of Local Area Unemployment Statistics, U.S. Department of Labor. Local Area Unemployment Statistics Home Page

COMMENT: It is important to consider that unemployment rate could vary by county and metropolitan area as well. The above numbers are only for major cities. I am curious about the noticeable difference between Miami and Fort Lauderdale.
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Old 05-14-2011, 05:30 AM
 
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Maye because Miami has a lot of illegals.
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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So basically this is a thread about the unemployment rate going down since every one of those cities had higher unemployment 3-6 months ago and have been dropping.

Also, with the way Florida cities are incorporated and the majority of the population living outside the city limits it really shows nothing to use city statistics instead of metro area stats.
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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So basically this is a thread about the unemployment rate going down since every one of those cities had higher unemployment 3-6 months ago and have been dropping.

Also, with the way Florida cities are incorporated and the majority of the population living outside the city limits it really shows nothing to use city statistics instead of metro area stats.
The link he posted shows metro area statistics and yes, the numbers are dropping for most of the cities. Do illegals count in unemployment statistics? I would guess most of them do not claim unemployment so they are not counted. As a job seeker, I would rather look for a job in Miami than Tallahassee even though the unemployment is much higher. Looking at job listings, there seems to be a lot more available in Miami.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:47 PM
 
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First of all, the BLS, where he got these statistics, has Miami at 10.9 percent for March 2011. Table 1. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and metropolitan area

Regarding undocumented workers all household and establishment surveys do not ask the legal status of workers. In other words, yes, they count them they just do not ask if they are legal or not.

The two threads need to be merged.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:35 AM
 
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First of all, the BLS, where he got these statistics, has Miami at 10.9 percent for March 2011. Table 1. Civilian labor force and unemployment by state and metropolitan area
I think that you need clarification distinguishing the difference between statistics for a metropolitan area versus statistics for a local area. The information source that you are referencing is not the same as mine.

I got my statistics from the Local Area Unemployment Statistics (LAUS) and you got yours from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)... both sources are from the U.S. Department of Labor but they are different in measurement.

The difference is that LAUS shows unemployment rate in local areas like cities and counties and BLS measures just metropolitan areas... which in this case is Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach Metropolitan Area. Yours are generalized, mine are specific. Do you notice the difference now?

I think that statistics from LAU are more accurate than from BLS. Here is a link to help you understand the difference... Local Area Unemployment Statistics Home Page



INSTRUCTIONS:
  • Scroll down the page
  • Go to the Databases section
  • Under the Database Name, select LAUS
  • Then go to One Screen Data Search
  • Select all the options needed and you will get it.
I hope this helps you understand that, according to LAUS, the City of Miami --NOT THE METRO AREA AS YOU CONFUSED-- has the highest unemployment among Florida's major cities.

I do all this emphasis because it is common here to find people who prefer to doubt credibility before going to the real facts. I'M SORRY MIAMIANS!!
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Old 05-15-2011, 11:12 AM
 
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It's simple math, as more people are dropped off the unemployment roles each month because their benefits are exhausted and they still have not found permanent work, the lower the unemployment number goes.
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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So you cherry-picked the inner city of Miami to get that statistic? Don't answer. You did. We got out stats from the same place but you by-passed the metro area and went to the inner city. In other words, what they say is true, you have some weird ax to grind. And you really had to go through some gyrations to get that stat.

Yow.

And these threads need to be combined.





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Originally Posted by ftlguy View Post
I think that you need clarification distinguishing the difference between statistics for a metropolitan area versus statistics for a local area. The information source that you are referencing is not the same as mine.

I got my statistics from the Local Area Unemployment Statistics (LAUS) and you got yours from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS)... both sources are from the U.S. Department of Labor but they are different in measurement.

The difference is that LAUS shows unemployment rate in local areas like cities and counties and BLS measures just metropolitan areas... which in this case is Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach Metropolitan Area. Yours are generalized, mine are specific. Do you notice the difference now?

I think that statistics from LAU are more accurate than from BLS. Here is a link to help you understand the difference... Local Area Unemployment Statistics Home Page



INSTRUCTIONS:
  • Scroll down the page
  • Go to the Databases section
  • Under the Database Name, select LAUS
  • Then go to One Screen Data Search
  • Select all the options needed and you will get it.
I hope this helps you understand that, according to LAUS, the City of Miami --NOT THE METRO AREA AS YOU CONFUSED-- has the highest unemployment among Florida's major cities.

I do all this emphasis because it is common here to find people who prefer to doubt credibility before going to the real facts. I'M SORRY MIAMIANS!!
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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It's simple math, as more people are dropped off the unemployment roles each month because their benefits are exhausted and they still have not found permanent work, the lower the unemployment number goes.
Wrong. That is not how it is calculated.
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Old 05-16-2011, 12:08 AM
 
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...(You) --parenthesis referring to ftlguy-- went to the inner city...
Not only to cities (plural) but to counties (plural) as well to have a more accurate picture. However, my post comparing unemployment rates in cities and counties has been unfairly deleted when it was merged into this thread.

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...you have some weird ax to grind
No, I do not! I question the effort here to hide the real facts... why? I just notice the same behavioral pattern as in politics... it is more convenient to damage credibility than going to the real facts.

This is the real reason why my post has been unfairly deleted...IF IT WAS COMBINED, I UNDERSTAND BUT I DEMAND THE COUNTIES INFORMATION TO BE RETRIEVED... otherwise, it would be discrimination because it did not violate any rule from here.
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