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Unread 05-26-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Chilly, Dry San Diego
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"You don't mess with family"!!!?!??? What is that even supposed to mean!!???
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Unread 05-26-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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"You don't mess with family"!!!?!??? What is that even supposed to mean!!???
If I would choose to call the IRS to report that my father-in-law overestimated the value of some clothing donated to the Salvation Army... I would lose his trust . If I would call the state sales tax collection department to report that he did not "voluntarily" report that sales tax on an Amazon.com purchase.... I would lose his respect. If I would call the local police because his car is parked in front of a meter that has just expired and should be ticketed.... I would lose his tolerance. If I were to report him to the local taxing authorities for requiring me to concur that the home that I am living that belongs to him (and probably paying little/no rent to him)..... he would detest me at that point, and want nothing to do with me, or me family and revoke his tenancy agreement.

You don't hurt family and not expect repercussions (financial disavowed, family disowned) to come your way.... that is what is meant by "you don't mess with family".
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Unread 05-26-2011, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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either move out or keep your mouth shut, you don't mess with family...
It's a two-way street. The father-in-law doesn't seem to see a problem with pulling his questionable shenanigans on his own family.
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Unread 05-26-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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There are always people who will try to take advantage of people, family or not. You may need to make some difficult decisions. The kind of people who do this usually have a pattern and at some point you may be in a worse position than you are now. Try to get yourself some support and do what you need to do to take care of yourself or loved ones. Do the best you can to make some good decisions.
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Unread 05-26-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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If I would choose to call the IRS to report that my father-in-law overestimated the value of some clothing donated to the Salvation Army... I would lose his trust . If I would call the state sales tax collection department to report that he did not "voluntarily" report that sales tax on an Amazon.com purchase.... I would lose his respect. If I would call the local police because his car is parked in front of a meter that has just expired and should be ticketed.... I would lose his tolerance. If I were to report him to the local taxing authorities for requiring me to concur that the home that I am living that belongs to him (and probably paying little/no rent to him)..... he would detest me at that point, and want nothing to do with me, or me family and revoke his tenancy agreement.

You don't hurt family and not expect repercussions (financial disavowed, family disowned) to come your way.... that is what is meant by "you don't mess with family".
You think the family member in question is acting with the same curtsies you are requiring of the poster? Would I report them, no. Would I have anything to do with them in the future, the answer is also no. Just because someone is family does not obligate you to have any relationship with them.

It would be nice if families members all got along but when it is not the case, the best course is often to just move on with your life. We all know what I am talking about and have seen it many times in our own families as well as with friends. There is no guilt not liking your own family members any more then a total stranger you would have nothing to do with. In fact some of the most hateful things I have ever seen were among family members.

I know of one case right now where a woman has just been removed from care and being allowed to die in Broward General Hospital. The sister who has control of the mother including the money will not let the other sister and brother see the mother before she dies. She has even said she will cremate the mother as soon as she dies. There can be real hate inside families.
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Unread 05-26-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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either move out or keep your mouth shut, you don't mess with family...
Thats harsh & family doesnt always act like family.
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Unread 05-26-2011, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Chilly, Dry San Diego
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If I would choose to call the IRS to report that my father-in-law overestimated the value of some clothing donated to the Salvation Army... I would lose his trust . If I would call the state sales tax collection department to report that he did not "voluntarily" report that sales tax on an Amazon.com purchase.... I would lose his respect. If I would call the local police because his car is parked in front of a meter that has just expired and should be ticketed.... I would lose his tolerance. If I were to report him to the local taxing authorities for requiring me to concur that the home that I am living that belongs to him (and probably paying little/no rent to him)..... he would detest me at that point, and want nothing to do with me, or me family and revoke his tenancy agreement.

You don't hurt family and not expect repercussions (financial disavowed, family disowned) to come your way.... that is what is meant by "you don't mess with family".

This is the most enragingly insane hogwash I've ever heard!!!

Your quotes:
"I would lose his trust." "I would lose his respect." "I would lose his tolerance. "he would detest me at that point, and want nothing to do with me, or me family and revoke his tenancy agreement."

My answer: WHO CARES!!!

I mean, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Respect "Family" after he used intimidation tactics against her and made a veiled threat against her husband? (I consider the fact that her father in law used the terms "in case anything happens to your husband" to be a veiled threat) By telling her to sign false documents he put her at risk of imprisonment.

I would say F--- the father in law!

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Now after all of that can we finally hear from the OP? I mean seriously, the OP has only had one post on one thread which is THIS ONE. So are we all being trolled or what? Is this a legitimate post we're responding to or did this person just throw this thing out there to watch us fight over the apple? OP NEEDS TO POST A RESPONSE FOR CREDIBILITY.



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Unread 05-28-2011, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Brandon, FL
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My spineless husband did nothing to dispute any of this other than to make his Dad change the move out time to 30 days.


This quoted line should have been up front.
It would have eliminated the need to take your request as a serious one from the start. Your entire post is negatively one-sided. If your father in law is providing you and your 'spineless' husband a home, I would be willing to bet that it is because you are doing each other a favor (he keeps his home rented to a trusted relative, and you have a home in a sunny state).

Your calling them both out in a public forum suggests that you dislike them and/or your current life situation, and are looking for ways to bring the entire family down before you slay your 'spineless' husband in a horrible divorce settlement. If that is not the case, you stand a good chance of alienating your family (and husband); and could find yourself having to find another place to live pretty quickly.

Having been in a situation where I let a family member stay at my house when I was deployed overseas, there was nothing illegal with keeping my stateside residence as my home of record for tax purposes. It was still my home, even though I lived abroad for many years. I also HAD to draft a rental agreement to let my sibling stay in my home (the only legal way to cover yourself as the property owner). If she would have tried to call me out for something that was not illegal, I would have terminated the contract as soon as legally possible, and sent her and her jobless family into the streets.

Calling your husband 'spineless' for something you likely don't understand is just hateful. I hope he is as 'naive' as he is 'spineless' for the sake of your marriage.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 08:10 AM
 
Location: North Florida
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"Landlord making me lie to keep his homestead exemption"

Nobody can "make" you do anything. You've made choices all along in this situation and it appears your choice is to go along with the status quo. For some people that's easier than standing up for themselves, for what they believe is right. You can only be bullied if you allow yourself to be bullied.
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Unread 05-29-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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If I would choose to call the IRS to report that my father-in-law overestimated the value of some clothing donated to the Salvation Army... I would lose his trust . If I would call the state sales tax collection department to report that he did not "voluntarily" report that sales tax on an Amazon.com purchase.... I would lose his respect. If I would call the local police because his car is parked in front of a meter that has just expired and should be ticketed.... I would lose his tolerance. If I were to report him to the local taxing authorities for requiring me to concur that the home that I am living that belongs to him (and probably paying little/no rent to him)..... he would detest me at that point, and want nothing to do with me, or me family and revoke his tenancy agreement.

You don't hurt family and not expect repercussions (financial disavowed, family disowned) to come your way.... that is what is meant by "you don't mess with family".

You sound like your being held down by your father in law. Im sorry I would do all those things to my own mother if it was better in the long run.
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