[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Please feel free to go back to the Midwest with a history of industrial pollution and earthquakes/flammable water thanks to lax fracking regulations

Much of the Midwest is pretty clean and very little exists in terms of industrial pollution or fracking. States like Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and Minnesota outside of the urban areas offer a lot of unpolluted inexpensive places to live if one isn't too fragile for the climate.

[lakelandrecords]

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[lakelandrecords]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Please feel free to go back to the Midwest with a history of industrial pollution and earthquakes/flammable water thanks to lax fracking regulations

You two guys are A*****es.

[lakelandrecords]

Originally Posted by kyle19125

Much of the Midwest is pretty clean and very little exists in terms of industrial pollution or fracking. States like Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and Minnesota outside of the urban areas offer a lot of unpolluted inexpensive places to live if one isn't too fragile for the climate.

That dude is a smug moron. Probably on the board of an HOA.

[lakelandrecords]

Originally Posted by in_newengland

That could be a large part of it. I remember when Florida was beautiful. Not so much anymore.

Potatoes were grown around Homestead and the orange groves around Orlando were productive as well as gorgeous. If HOAs are using Round Up, that's a real shame.

The Lakeland area where I live still retains some of that beauty. Same with the surrounding areas.
But you can see where the developers are moving in. It's turning into a series of strip malls, corporate centers, and HOA communities. The farms are all being bought out, and the people who had nice big plots of land are being bought out, all by commercial developers. It's a sad thing to see, the unique and beautiful land being shredded to build Targets, Publix and Walmarts.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by lakelandrecords

You two guys are A*****es.

Truth hurts, doesnt it?

FL has very little pollution as far major population states goes

[GreggT]

Originally Posted by lakelandrecords

That dude is a smug moron. Probably on the board of an HOA.

What has this insulting post got to do with the subject matter?

[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by lakelandrecords

It's a shame, but corporations own the state of Florida, and as such they rape the consumer. I moved here because the "living costs" were much lower than my home state, but I found out quickly that in Florida you pay in a lot of other ways, and food is one of them.

For two people we spend about $150-$200 a week on basic food supplies. Chicken, ground beef, fish, pork, eggs, butter, milk, bacon, cold cuts, rice, pasta, sauce materials, veggies, beans, bread, coffee, beer, wine, bottled water(You have to in florida) and oatmeal. God forbid we need spices and olive oil, or anything else.

Florida has very little land that can be used for farming.

It's dirty little secret is that so much of the land is dedicated to HOA developments,
and those developments have rules. One of the most universal of those rules is the "no weeds" rule.
To follow the no weeds rule, people spray Round Up all over their property.
That weed killing poison runs off all over the place, destroying the environment.

Florida has some very nasty tap water, with several known poisons under the legal limit but above the danger levels. The HOA has destroyed this state, leaving most of the state a series of walled communities and shopping strips, polluting everywhere.

1. FL has millions of acres of undeveloped land, though it isn't in coastal/south Florida.
2. Plenty of viable farms in Florida but once again it isn't going to be near an HOA!
3. Cost of groceries is directly tied to cost of real estate. If the area is full of 500K houses then the commercial landlord isn't going to charge the grocery store Main Street, Kansas rents!


So maybe head back to Mayberry and tell Aunt Bee and Andy how "Florida is a bad place for consumers" because of the HOA's. Barney and Floyd will surely agree with you!

Consider the term Non Sequitur as your new word of the day.

[gypsychic]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

1. FL has millions of acres of undeveloped land, though it isn't in coastal/south Florida.
2. Plenty of viable farms in Florida but once again it isn't going to be near an HOA!
3. Cost of groceries is directly tied to cost of real estate. If the area is full of 500K houses then the commercial landlord isn't going to charge the grocery store Main Street, Kansas rents!


So maybe head back to Mayberry and tell Aunt Bee and Andy how "Florida is a bad place for consumers" because of the HOA's. Barney and Floyd will surely agree with you!

Consider the term Non Sequitur as your new word of the day.

Excellent ^^^. Reps given!

[ByeByeLW]

Sorry but lakelandrecords is correct about many things.

The only turf grass, for example, that’s native to North America is buffalo grass.

The grass that’s in most communities is maintained at an environmental cost no one really wants to discuss until we get a tragedy like algae blooms , which some say would happen even without pollution.

Ficus hedges sprayed for whitefly infestatio? Plenty of that around. Our water table is quite high, so where does the runoff go?

A few years ago I decide I would like to relocate to a rural area of Central Florida. I hesitated was concerned about being stuck in the middle of some future development. I was correct.

Farms and former camping areas are being sold off and subdivided. The land is being stripped and zoning regulations are being changed. This is near Ocala Forest.

Yes,there a viable farms in Florida. But when you start seeing signs like “save our rural lifestyle” you know something’s going on.

Many farmers are holding out, but will their children?

In western PalmBeach county there are still some farms. Developers are trying to get into part of a national wildlife refuge.

Perhaps if you go to a Florida Native Plant Society meeting, you can learn the environmental cost of maintaining all of this turf grass and non native vegetation.

Another really sad thing is the removal of perfectly healthy native trees.

It’s illegal to disrupt a nest of raptors, especially. But if the HOA wants that tree down or that branch cut- screw everything. There are plenty of landscapers out there willing to look the other way.