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Old 09-27-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Well, if you've ever been over by Rollins College/ Park Ave in Winter Park, on a SUNDAY at 2PM, the last thing you expect to happen is to be sitting IN your car and have gunmen drive up, stick a gun in your face, rob you, and smash you in the face with the gun.

This was a violent, brazen, daytime robbery. Criminals are getting desperate and they don't care when, where, or who.

On the positive side, we have good guns laws in FL to protect ourselves.

The last thing anyone ever suspects in nice areas is to rob you at gun point. But it happens, and not just in Winter Park. Sometimes it happens in Harvard, as linked above.

Often it happens in nice areas, because that's where people who have money live. People without money travel to places with money and commit crimes.
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Land of ice and snow
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Yeah, maybe we should all move to North Dakota, where there's less people than there are in most cities.

Sometimes, if you're going to live where there are actually PEOPLE, AMENITIES, and ENTERTAINMENT, you're going to have to put up with a bit more crime. Can't all live in the sticks, ya know.

And a Hurricane is one of the easiest natural disasters to avoid. It's not like they pop up out of nowhere like a Tornado (Mid-West, Texas), an Earthquake (California), or happen every year, like clockwork, usually more than once per year (blizzards).

BTW: "Low wages" are relative to profession and job type. Not all of us suffer from the affliction. Oh, and my cost of living is cheaper now than it was just three years ago. Funny how that works.
Will pick this post apart piece by piece:

1. One of the main reasons there's less people, is that transplants from other places such as in the southeast can't hack it here when it gets cold, so they leave and go somewhere else.

2. This didn't make sense at all. There's PEOPLE, AMENITIES, and ENTERTAINMENT here as well, and still relatively low crime.

3. How can a hurricane be an easily avoidable natural disaster? Tell that to those who had there homes completely obliterated by Category 5 Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

4. Unlikely your cost of living is cheaper than it was three years ago with inflation (gasoline, food costs, insurance, etc.).
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Old 09-27-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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That's what they said about my ancestors, too. But just like then, the immigrants are on the roofs fixing them, in every restaurant kitchen, in every field picking...
You couldn't pay me to live in ND....

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4. Unlikely your cost of living is cheaper than it was three years ago with inflation (gasoline, food costs, insurance, etc.).
Oil was $147/barrel in 2008 with gas above $4/gallon. We are nowhere near that today.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Land of ice and snow
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You couldn't pay me to live in ND....



Oil was $147/barrel in 2008 with gas above $4/gallon. We are nowhere near that today.
Would not never ever want to live in FL either!
That first quotation had nothing to do with anything this poster stated earlier. Gas was nowhere near above $4 per gallon in 2008, it was around $3.40 per gallon at its highest in most areas, then it even decreased some during the onset of the recession. No need to discuss anything else. Not returning to view any other responses on this. The bad statistics regarding Florida speak for themselves.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:27 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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Would not never ever want to live in FL either!
That first quotation had nothing to do with anything this poster stated earlier. Gas was nowhere near above $4 per gallon in 2008, it was around $3.40 per gallon at its highest in most areas, then it even decreased some during the onset of the recession. No need to discuss anything else. Not returning to view any other responses on this. The bad statistics regarding Florida speak for themselves.
Thank you. What my post regarding immigrants has to do with North Dakota is beyond me.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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I'm sorry, but what does North Dakota have to do with anything we're talking about?? Florida is 27 times larger than ND, so I imagine the problems found in Florida are 27 times larger than the problems in ND. In a highly populated state numbers will always be high.
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:09 AM
 
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I'm sorry, but what does North Dakota have to do with anything we're talking about?? .
They were comparing North Dakota to Florida - crime, weather, population.
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Florida is 27 times larger than ND, so I imagine the problems found in Florida are 27 times larger than the problems in ND. In a highly populated state numbers will always be high..
Not true. A state that has a high population may have a more vibrant economy, much lower unemployment rate, less crime, less foreclosures, less problems per capita than a state with a lower population. NDtrucker made some good points, especially in regards to population reasoning, cost of living increases, and hurricane risk potential. Hurricane Andrew was an extremely bad storm that hit south Florida years ago, and they had to upgrade many of the building codes to withstand higher windspeeds thereafter.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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Will pick this post apart piece by piece:

1. One of the main reasons there's less people, is that transplants from other places such as in the southeast can't hack it here when it gets cold, so they leave and go somewhere else.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.

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2. This didn't make sense at all. There's PEOPLE, AMENITIES, and ENTERTAINMENT here as well, and still relatively low crime.
Yeah. Applebees, a movie theater and Red Lobster don't count as "amenities" worth writing home about.

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3. How can a hurricane be an easily avoidable natural disaster? Tell that to those who had there homes completely obliterated by Category 5 Hurricane Andrew in 1992.
Oh, you only get... what.... 2 weeks notice? And by the way, since you're the apparent expert on Florida, you would know that the housing stock is SIGNIFICANTLY hardened since 1992. Building codes, etc. have been drastically improved.

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4. Unlikely your cost of living is cheaper than it was three years ago with inflation (gasoline, food costs, insurance, etc.).
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Property taxes are cheaper due to revisions of boom-era home values. Gas is cheaper. Rents are cheaper. Costs less for contractors and materials to do work on my house, TONS of deals at the many many restaurants, educational and cultural venues around here. Hotels are cheaper for quick jaunts down to the keys (as I am doing this weekend to go snorkeling).... I really could go on and on.

Have fun in the Dakotas. I'm sure all 500 thousand of you have a great life up there. Which is great for you!
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:34 AM
 
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Oil boom brings high-paying jobs to North Dakota - Sep. 28, 2011
North Dakota really is good if you need a well-paying entry-level job, but I wouldn't do it unless I was desperate enough like some of the folks in that article
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Will pick this post apart piece by piece:

1. One of the main reasons there's less people, is that transplants from other places such as in the southeast can't hack it here when it gets cold, so they leave and go somewhere else.
Ah, the proverbial "you aint tuff nuff if you don't love frost bite" mentality. Good on you if that makes your day but most people outside of ND don't really care to make that their self-esteem pillow.

And BTW...there aren't transplants from the SE because most people transplant TO the SE. Natives from the SE don't have a need or desire to move away just as native NDs' don't.

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2. This didn't make sense at all. There's PEOPLE, AMENITIES, and ENTERTAINMENT here as well, and still relatively low crime.
While I'm sure there are plenty of things to do there, you aren't really going to compare the types of entertainment options in ND to a place built on tourism I hope? I mean...don't get me wrong, the touristy stuff can get old but there is a reason it exists & thats because the majority of people prefer those entertainment options while on vacation.

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3. How can a hurricane be an easily avoidable natural disaster? Tell that to those who had there homes completely obliterated by Category 5 Hurricane Andrew in 1992.
The avoidable part is that you can remain alive by leaving the direct impact area. As FYI...I lived 1 hour north of there during that hurricane and received NO DAMAGE at all. It didn't wipe out the state.

And playing the "tell that to the people who lost" card doesn't make sense since you could say that about ANY natural disaster.

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4. Unlikely your cost of living is cheaper than it was three years ago with inflation (gasoline, food costs, insurance, etc.).
Probably depends on what you are defining as inflation but would agree that food is more expensive...but not gas. Insurance might be lower for some since the cost of replacement has gone down (though for others it is still high as their mortgage value is too high to lower the insured amount).
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