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Old 01-02-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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Technology.

Construction is now picking back up in FL. I saw several jobs ads within last few days in the construction supply industry. These days, you see new homes being built again(more than one or two). You see construction materials being delivered (trusses, lumber, blocks, etc) on the road again, for brand new homes. You didn't see that for 4 years. But it is noticable again. Not in volumes like before, but construction is moving forward in FL and the industry is starting to hire again.

Florida has turned the corner and the ecomony is moving forward again. It will take a quarter or two before you see it in the statistical trend. Folks are spending money in FL, shopping, going to restaurants.
I completely agree with sware2cod - Florida has definitely turned the corner and we are moving forward full steam ahead. Here in Sarasota/Manatee things seem to be BOOMING. They are even building spec homes again. Lots of construction with big commercial projects, LOTS of new (good!) jobs being added weekly, companies opening or expanding here.

"There are none so blind as those who will not see." There are many who post here who really do NOT want to see these things - perhaps they are just overjustifying why they can't make it here, or can't live here or who knows what. But they can be in denial all they want, Florida has had it's booms and busts throughout time and this choo-choo is revving up again.

Yes, tourism is a HUGE industry for Florida - why not? It's one of the most beautiful states in the country with warm weather and miles of beautiful coastline. But the center of the state also has a lot of major companies as has been posted many times in other threads on this forum. If anyone took half a minute to research they would see just how much Florida DOES have going on. But as I said, most don't want to bother, it's just so much easier to blather about how bad it is here.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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I completely agree with sware2cod - Florida has definitely turned the corner and we are moving forward full steam ahead.
That's a laugh. Florida has never moved full steam ahead of anything but sweating the heck out of people.

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"There are none so blind as those who will not see." There are many who post here who really do NOT want to see these things - perhaps they are just overjustifying why they can't make it here, or can't live here or who knows what. But they can be in denial all they want, Florida has had it's booms and busts throughout time and this choo-choo is revving up again.
The only time Florida has had a boom is in the 60s and 70s when seniors discovered it was a perfect retirement residence and told all their other senior friends across the country to move here.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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You should read up on history before you make such invalid statements.



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That's a laugh. Florida has never moved full steam ahead of anything but sweating the heck out of people.



The only time Florida has had a boom is in the 60s and 70s when seniors discovered it was a perfect retirement residence and told all their other senior friends across the country to move here.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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That's a laugh. Florida has never moved full steam ahead of anything but sweating the heck out of people.



The only time Florida has had a boom is in the 60s and 70s when seniors discovered it was a perfect retirement residence and told all their other senior friends across the country to move here.
You really don't know very much about it, do you. That's OK. Most of us know better.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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Your opinion of the looks really means nothing when discussing home prices in different areas.
Different individuals like different looks and homes come in many different styles.
Do you have 2 daughters, do they like different things?
As I said, the place I OWN in Florida is ugly. Big mistake to buy a house in Florida at all. Yeah, I guess some people, starried eyed transplants, probably would like my house. Maybe they will buy it.

We never should have bought a house at our age. When I leave Florida, I will rent. No, my kids don't have the same tastes, but BOTH have said they wouldn't want our house in Florida. They told me they would sell it and use the money to buy a house where they now live.

We are all different, Mike. Fortunately, my kids and I are on the same page when it comes to Florida.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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You need medical help. Those homes are completely gorgeous.
I like brick Tudors and decorated in dark colors. Basically, NORTHERN/cold weather type homes.

I am not into tropical homes/condos at all.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Central FL
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Orlando is the "5th Hungriest City" in the US.

My county (commuting distance to O-Town) has 2,300+ homeless school children (and growing). Almost 60% of our 40k school population qualifies for free or reduced lunch.

My husband and I grabbed lunch in a local restaurant and the waitress commented out of the blue about how bad crime is and said someone broke into the restaurant the other day.

Seminole County (supposedly one of the most affluent in the state) was profiled twice on 60 Minutes for homeless children in the schools.

Yes, Florida is in the national news and NOT in a good way.

Fortune 500 companies should be flocking here since we have low taxes. Well, what we don't offer is a highly educated workforce and good infrastructure/ transportation. (and being a peninsula down here doesn't help us too much either!) Companies will locate where the workforce meets their needs. Sure, FL churns out plenty of college grads, but many of those are forced to leave FL just to secure a job.

The cost of living is not that low in FL anymore. Things like insurance (homeowners and auto) + electricity are all well above (sometime flat double) what we paid when we lived in Georgia.

I have a lot of college educated friends who left FL in the last 5 years. Many more tell me out of the blue that they want to leave. (they are originally from the Northeast). One of my friends is a teacher and just moved to NJ. Her salary went from $38k to $66k with benefits that cost $80/mo vs. $800 here! Yes, that won't last forever anywhere, but for now there are much greener pastures for skilled workers.

It's not all about doing things on the cheap. We need to offer a real quality of life and we need a vision for the future instead of being stuck in the dark ages here. My friend from Vermont told me that his town there just gave him a credit for installing solar power. He is able to sell power back to the local utility now. Meanwhile, down in FL...DUH....

Seriously, our "leadership" here makes what I saw in Georgia look downright progressive.

We need to keep our college educated workforce and we need to attract some real industry (manufacturing would be nice; even GA was getting some big name plants where I used to live. In fact, 25% of the population in my old county was employed in the manufacturing industry. That's impressive. Here in my area of FL, we have service sector workers and old pensioners. Poor kids in the schools and old folks at the Olive Garden. You can figure out how well that will work out for the long term health of our state.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Central FL
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Regarding the gambling issue: NO way does that get passed this spring.

Disney is againt it and lawmakers have pressure from the religious right to avoid gambling for moral reasons. I pronounce it DOA.

So that leaves what - a $2 B budget hole to be filled by cutting spending and services in FL? Here we go again...
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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As I said, the place I OWN in Florida is ugly. Big mistake to buy a house in Florida at all. Yeah, I guess some people, starried eyed transplants, probably would like my house. Maybe they will buy it.

We never should have bought a house at our age. When I leave Florida, I will rent. No, my kids don't have the same tastes, but BOTH have said they wouldn't want our house in Florida. They told me they would sell it and use the money to buy a house where they now live.

We are all different, Mike. Fortunately, my kids and I are on the same page when it comes to Florida.
You bought an ugly house? Why would you do that? What about your condo?

Or maybe you are still just bitter because you had to leave the north because your husband couldn't find a job up there and could only find one down here.

That is not Florida's fault and I see many posts here that seem to blame Florida and deride Florida where really there is no fault, just how the chips fell.
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Old 01-03-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Current casinos in Florida don't give a dime in taxes (Seminole Indians are exempt)... If you haven't visited a casino lately you should..... Lots of housewives pumping money into slots/video poker machines all night long! Wannabe poker stars dumping money onto tables thinking "well I saw this on tv!". The old people are more scarce than in years past and they are hovering in the nickel slot section.

Casinos are far from glamorous places.....
Louisiana has casino's all over the place and they're a poor state.
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