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Old 01-10-2012, 08:03 AM
 
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Bring it on. I don't spend my days living in fear. I'm one of those risky guys who leaves his car unlocked, sometimes with the windows down. What are they going to steal? My cassette tapes?

No problem, but just wonder what benefit you would get as a citizen of the paradise if casino gambling is approved? Cheap buffets may come at a high price for Floridians!

Casinos are built on losers, Florida already has a job/wage/industry problem so what little money the citizens make you want them to wager it at a casino with the hopes of winning $500, $5,000? Seems like bad logic, but then again anyone using logic wouldn't even go to a casino.

I am certainly not against gambling from horses/dogs, to sports betting, casinos and lottery tickets. The thing I don't like is that there is no benefit to doing it and very often when it gets out of control it is financially worse than drugs/alcohol. When you have a drug/alcohol issue it is easily spotted (appearance, behavior, etc) but with gambling it is damn near invisible to others and it is legal/24-7 it can be done anytime.

Florida has enough problems, expanded gambling isn't good for the state.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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No wonder you're not happy. You live in a sh*thole for heaven sakes. St. Peteeeeeeeeeeee? Holy bejesus. Before destroying your life, and the Kalifornia machine will surely chew you up and spit you lout like a delicious fried chitlin eaten by big black man in Alabama. Have you gievn any thought about New Orleans, Detroit or Alabama?
Seriously ?
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Wake County, NC
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No wonder you're not happy. You live in a sh*thole for heaven sakes. St. Peteeeeeeeeeeee? Holy bejesus. Before destroying your life, and the Kalifornia machine will surely chew you up and spit you lout like a delicious fried chitlin eaten by big black man in Alabama. Have you gievn any thought about New Orleans, Detroit or Alabama?
WTH?
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:12 AM
 
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No problem, but just wonder what benefit you would get as a citizen of the paradise if casino gambling is approved? Cheap buffets may come at a high price for Floridians!

Casinos are built on losers, Florida already has a job/wage/industry problem so what little money the citizens make you want them to wager it at a casino with the hopes of winning $500, $5,000? Seems like bad logic, but then again anyone using logic wouldn't even go to a casino.

I am certainly not against gambling from horses/dogs, to sports betting, casinos and lottery tickets. The thing I don't like is that there is no benefit to doing it and very often when it gets out of control it is financially worse than drugs/alcohol. When you have a drug/alcohol issue it is easily spotted (appearance, behavior, etc) but with gambling it is damn near invisible to others and it is legal/24-7 it can be done anytime.

Florida has enough problems, expanded gambling isn't good for the state.
Retirees and tourists are the main customer for these casinos. Neither of these demographics have jobs in the FL service sector.

Gambling has been very successful in FL over the past several years. It already passed a vote several years ago and one or two counties in S FL passed it. They added the casinos (not part of the Native American casinos) and the success has been overwhelming. Clean, safe, entertaining. They have restaurants and concert venues attached. Folks travel to visit the casinos. The crime and addiction did not occur. These casinos pay massive taxes to the state on their revenue. It is a lot of new income for the state. It brings more tourists in from other states.

It is a proven business model that works well and does NOT breed crime and addiction.
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Old 01-11-2012, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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No wonder you're not happy. You live in a sh*thole for heaven sakes. St. Peteeeeeeeeeeee? Holy bejesus. Before destroying your life, and the Kalifornia machine will surely chew you up and spit you lout like a delicious fried chitlin eaten by big black man in Alabama. Have you gievn any thought about New Orleans, Detroit or Alabama?
It's good do hear an outsiders opinion of my city, thanks. But if I moved, it would be out of the southeastern US for sure. I want something very different from FL. I'd be more apt to moving to a large city in the upper midwest than a southeastern city.

Just look at this jewel of a city, it's already captured me in it's seduction. Surely there's room for just one more person there.

Flyover Los Angeles (HD 1080p) - YouTube
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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No problem, but just wonder what benefit you would get as a citizen of the paradise if casino gambling is approved? Cheap buffets may come at a high price for Floridians!
I wouldn't get any benefits because I don't gamble. I'm completely against telling other people that they can't gamble, however.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: N.H Gods Country
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I know exactly what your talking about, but it seems that if you move to Florida and don't stay, some of the people on here will say you either didnt do your homework before moving there or theres something wrong with you. We lived there for ten years, were both very successful with our own business,but still would rather live in New England. Florida definatly is warmer in the winter,but it consistantly fell short of the lifestyle that we wanted. In ten years we put over 200,000 miles on the motorcycles riding all over the state. There definatly are some beautiful areas that we still plan to visit sometime, but living somewhere and visiting are two different things.

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Old 01-13-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: My Own Private Island
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Consider this .... Moving any where now, and you don't like it ... The $ spent moving could break a middle class person or family. We know this guy, he moved from Destin to Naples. He not so happy in Naples, and the move broke his bank account & spirit. He was a property owner in Destin and wanted to retire to larger city in Florida w/ culture and arts. His vehicle and health insurance skyrocketed. Across the board his expenses went up. The guy is barely getting by last we heard.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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Consider this .... Moving any where now, and you don't like it ... The $ spent moving could break a middle class person or family. We know this guy, he moved from Destin to Naples. He not so happy in Naples, and the move broke his bank account & spirit. He was a property owner in Destin and wanted to retire to larger city in Florida w/ culture and arts. His vehicle and health insurance skyrocketed. Across the board his expenses went up. The guy is barely getting by last we heard.

Moving from Destin to Naples for a "larger city feel" was the first mistake! Naples is one of the more expensive locales in the state as well
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Old 01-14-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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It's good do hear an outsiders opinion of my city, thanks. But if I moved, it would be out of the southeastern US for sure. I want something very different from FL. I'd be more apt to moving to a large city in the upper midwest than a southeastern city.

Just look at this jewel of a city, it's already captured me in it's seduction. Surely there's room for just one more person there.

Flyover Los Angeles (HD 1080p) - YouTube
Believe me, living in a large city is so much better. Everything's more convenient, more variety in everything, better jobs, sports, there's no comparison.
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