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Old 03-19-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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That tells me that the police had been responding too slowly to his calls, which frustrated him.



This neighborhood had a big problem with black teens walking through (the "gated community" was not fenced all the way around) and stealing things. If he wasn't suspicious of this kid who was walking around slowly and loitering in the rain, he'd be negligent of his duty.

We know this kid was at minimum a minor trouble-maker, perhaps worse. He was suspended from school and had been sent away by his parents to straighten up.
So he took the law into his own hands and killed a kid after he was told not to respond. Police don't usually respond quickly to a report of someone walking around.

 
Old 03-19-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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I listened to the 911 tape. The 911 callers only mentioned the yells for help as male, not a boy. One must also consider that if it were Zimmerman calling for help, he would not necessarily need to continue calling for help after he shot the kid, and that could also explain why the calls stopped after the shot. Remember, Zimmerman was suffering some head wounds. I for one am keeping an open mind.
Can an aggressor claim self defense?

Even if it was zimmerman calling for help, even if zimmerman suffered some head wounds, the fact still remain he hunted an unarmed kid down after he was told by the police to not follow the boy. Trayvon still had the right to defend himself.
Cops did not arrest Zimmerman because they claim it was self defense
Where's the logic in that?
According to police if I decide to hunt someone down with a gun, harass him, get my ask kicked and I shoot to kill, then i can claim self defense and get away with it? Is that right?
 
Old 03-19-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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I'm getting sick and tired of hearing Hispanics and Blacks in the news and someone getting killed. All I see anymore around here are minorities and some kind of crime. Where the hell is the parenting anymore, you know Moms and Dads whoopin some ass.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: 1988 yugo
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at some point zimmerman was going to pull his gun and shoot somebody.(period)
 
Old 03-19-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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It sounds like a stupid hate crime and Zimmerman seems more like an Archie Bunker than someone interested in monitoring crime in his neighborhood.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: WPB
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Can an aggressor claim self defense?

Even if it was zimmerman calling for help, even if zimmerman suffered some head wounds, the fact still remain he hunted an unarmed kid down after he was told by the police to not follow the boy. Trayvon still had the right to defend himself.
Cops did not arrest Zimmerman because they claim it was self defense
Where's the logic in that?
According to police if I decide to hunt someone down with a gun, harass him, get my ask kicked and I shoot to kill, then i can claim self defense and get away with it? Is that right?
Exactly correct.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I'm getting sick and tired of hearing Hispanics and Blacks in the news and someone getting killed. All I see anymore around here are minorities and some kind of crime. Where the hell is the parenting anymore, you know Moms and Dads whoopin some ass.
Last time I checked, walking was not a crime[yet]. Zimmerman doesn't have the legal authority to stop, question or detain anyone. This situation transcends race.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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When will they arrest Zimmerman? This is crazy that he's out on the streets.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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When will they arrest Zimmerman? This is crazy that he's out on the streets.
I hate to say this but I'm not confident in the State of Florida. I foresee the Justice Department stepping in.
 
Old 03-19-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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When will they arrest Zimmerman? This is crazy that he's out on the streets.
Arrest him for what?

They said they do not have enough evidence to arrest him.

When they do I am sure they will.

You cannot just go around arresting people because you do not like what happened.
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