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Old 10-10-2007, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Many people who praise the current "save our homes" amendment and tax system seem to have no sympathy for those who purchased after 2001. They complain about snowbirds and investors without thinking of those native to Florida who would pay the same taxes those wealthy investors paid. Under the current system, a native Floridian who recieves Florida wages has no hope of ever affording a decent home. Those of us who want to move end up facing the same odds. When thinking of tax reform, do not forget about those of us born and raised here. Let's stop chasing all of our home grown talent out of Florida.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:56 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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There you go, tallrick.

I guess no answer is your answer.

Of course, if they have no one to put out the fire threatening to burn down their homes, no one to teach their kids, no one to arrest the guy that did the home invasion, no one to bring their early-bird special, no one to give them their medication at Walmart, no one to fix their car, well, then they will be concerned.

It doesn't bother them much until it affects them.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:24 PM
 
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I've always seen this as the biggest problem with Save Our Homes. It could be argued that first time homebuyers would struggle the most with housing costs and are forced to pay the most (per $1,000 of value) in taxes for their homes.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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as i said on the other thread, people are more concerned with saving themselves a few thousand dollars than making it more fair.

its amazing that they cant even see how they are screwing their own children out of being able to afford a home...
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:55 PM
 
Location: The Conterminous United States
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When they called it the "Me" generation, they weren't kidding, were they?
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:47 AM
 
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Well, all you have to do is get the people that are affected to vote. Until the generation between 18 and 30 starts to actually show up at the polls, why in the world would they expect the politicians to listen to them?
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:58 AM
 
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Buying a first home hasn't been easy for anyone in any state or from any generation. I'm not aware of any property tax cuts from any other state just for first time home buyers.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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Up until 2000 or so it was not a problem here in Florida.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:09 AM
 
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Well, all you have to do is get the people that are affected to vote. Until the generation between 18 and 30 starts to actually show up at the polls, why in the world would they expect the politicians to listen to them?
That is not true and also what is wrong with almost the whole system. You used the term "People who are effected". You need people to take an interest in an issue even if it doesn't effect them because they know what its right or wrong, at least in their opinion.

People need to take an interest in things that effect their fellow citizens whether it directly effects them or not. As with the issue SOH's. Most would concede that SOH's is an unfair system, but they want what benefits them even if it is at the expense of others. Lets face it, we live in a selfish uncaring society.

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Old 10-11-2007, 09:55 AM
 
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That is not true and also what is wrong with almost the whole system. You used the term "People who are effected". You need people to take an interest in an issue even if it doesn't effect them because they know what its right or wrong, at least in their opinion.

People need to take an interest in things that effect their fellow citizens whether it directly effects them or not. As with the issue SOH's. Most would concede that SOH's is an unfair system, but they want what benefits them even if it is at the expense of others. Lets fact it, we live in a selfish uncaring society.
Firstly, It's Affected, Not Effected.

Secondly, no one is entitled to breaks just because it's their first home. You buy what you can afford and move from there. No one had it easy. It is foolish for a person just starting out to think that a $400,000 home is a realistic expectation.

We don't live in a selfish uncaring society. We live in a society where people suddenly think they are entitled to all kinds of things from the start, rather than earning them.
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