[marianareb]

you have to pay the price of avoiding the harsh winters, but the summers here in Miami are stressfull with the hurricane season and all. The insurance also went up up up with the taxes and the prices but right now is a buyers market so you could find something worthwhile.

[Moving2SPL]

Originally Posted by INeedAChange

I guess it could be argued that nice parts of Manhattan is better than Florida, if you're into the things Manhattan has to offer. There's no question that Florida is far superior to the outer boroughs, NJ and Long Island. Those places don't offer anything on their own, except good schools in some areas, only proximity to Manhattan.

Well the nice parts of Manhattan are extremely expensive, so an average person who doesn't have a couple of hundred thousand dollars laying around in his/her bank account will not be able to afford to purchase an apartment. Now if you want to look into renting an apartment in the nicer part of Manhattan, you lookiing at $2500 to $6500 a month (depending how nice of an area you are aiming for). Now you can always try working at three jobs or shacking up with three roommates just so you can can live in the nicer part of Manhattan.

So to put it out there, just in case people aren't familiar with the facts about living in Manhattan and are interested in moving there, unless you are rich, wealthy or just damn lucky, you will not be able to purchase a damn thing in the nicer part of Manhattan. Many people who work in Manhattan don't live here.

I am sure many of you heard about Harlem. Harlem right now is now changing to become an extension of Uptown, where one bedroom apartment complexes are running from $400,000 and more---and this isn't a roomy one bedroom.....its more like a 600 to 750 sq feet living space with a $900 to $1500 maintenance fee a month. Some places now have different types of programs for lower income or working class people to be selected to be in a lottery drawing and be able to qualify for a nice apt. with $100,000 to $200,000 less than the market value.

[cmsvmom]

I grew up in Miami, have lived in NY/NJ for the past 30 years, and cannot wait to leave and go back home. This year.

It really is about what you want and need at this time of your life. Not everyone likes living in FLorida, and many people move and then want to come back. It is a big adjustment for some people.

My friends just moved down from LI - they rented for a while to see if they really liked the lifestyle. Then they came back home, made their decision, sold their house, and went. They love it. But they went with their eyes open to the trade offs, and also they are better connected with family down there.

[INeedAChange]

You're right, but I was thinking more in terms of quality of life. I agree it's not affordable for 95% of people. But all things being equal it's a very nice lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Moving2SPL

Well the nice parts of Manhattan are extremely expensive, so an average person who doesn't have a couple of hundred thousand dollars laying around in his/her bank account will not be able to afford to purchase an apartment. Now if you want to look into renting an apartment in the nicer part of Manhattan, you lookiing at $2500 to $6500 a month (depending how nice of an area you are aiming for). Now you can always try working at three jobs or shacking up with three roommates just so you can can live in the nicer part of Manhattan.

So to put it out there, just in case people aren't familiar with the facts about living in Manhattan and are interested in moving there, unless you are rich, wealthy or just damn lucky, you will not be able to purchase a damn thing in the nicer part of Manhattan. Many people who work in Manhattan don't live here.

I am sure many of you heard about Harlem. Harlem right now is now changing to become an extension of Uptown, where one bedroom apartment complexes are running from $400,000 and more---and this isn't a roomy one bedroom.....its more like a 600 to 750 sq feet living space with a $900 to $1500 maintenance fee a month. Some places now have different types of programs for lower income or working class people to be selected to be in a lottery drawing and be able to qualify for a nice apt. with $100,000 to $200,000 less than the market value.

[maggsgsr]

Keem them coming... Thanks everyone!!

[HockeyMom72]

Originally Posted by INeedAChange

You're right, but I was thinking more in terms of quality of life. I agree it's not affordable for 95% of people. But all things being equal it's a very nice lifestyle.

but it is cheaper to rent in any of the other boroughs (short train ride to Manhattan) than it is to rent 50 miles away on LI.

[HockeyMom72]

Originally Posted by Moving2SPL

Well the nice parts of Manhattan are extremely expensive, so an average person who doesn't have a couple of hundred thousand dollars laying around in his/her bank account will not be able to afford to purchase an apartment. Now if you want to look into renting an apartment in the nicer part of Manhattan, you lookiing at $2500 to $6500 a month (depending how nice of an area you are aiming for). Now you can always try working at three jobs or shacking up with three roommates just so you can can live in the nicer part of Manhattan.

So to put it out there, just in case people aren't familiar with the facts about living in Manhattan and are interested in moving there, unless you are rich, wealthy or just damn lucky, you will not be able to purchase a damn thing in the nicer part of Manhattan. Many people who work in Manhattan don't live here.

I am sure many of you heard about Harlem. Harlem right now is now changing to become an extension of Uptown, where one bedroom apartment complexes are running from $400,000 and more---and this isn't a roomy one bedroom.....its more like a 600 to 750 sq feet living space with a $900 to $1500 maintenance fee a month. Some places now have different types of programs for lower income or working class people to be selected to be in a lottery drawing and be able to qualify for a nice apt. with $100,000 to $200,000 less than the market value.

They are going to put up low cost rental housing ($700 - $1,300) for NYC teachers and support staff. I don't remember what the target date is for this.

[Songbird42]

I lived in Sussex County New Jersey most of my life, came to FL out of obligation to family, to keep everyone happy, hated Fl after 6 months then when everyone started to die, hated it even more, the last straw was with husband dying leaving me with kids and no family support. Every time I wanted to get back to NJ one thing or another pervented the move. My oldest daughter is back home living around the corner from where her father is buried,(he hated Fl as much as me and said he'd haunt me if I didn't bring him back to his mountains) and she loves the beautiful mountains, cool breezes and an occasional black bear in her yard. I long to walk the trails
sit on a bench and watch the leaves change, see snow fall and ice cicles form on the bare branches. But, as the years have gone by, the prices of homes has climbed beyond this ladies pocketbook, the NJ property taxes are more than I can afford.

Everytime I hear people talk about NJ I think lovingly of my mountains that I love so much, the memories of past good times and know that one day I will return if only to be reunited with my husband. I'm hoping that in the future I may be able to move North as far as my money will take me (NC) and close enough to visit NJ a couple of times a year. I hope the day will come when I can drive North and never look back on the terrible memories I have of FL.

[HockeyMom72]

Originally Posted by Songbird42

I lived in Sussex County New Jersey most of my life, came to FL out of obligation to family, to keep everyone happy, hated Fl after 6 months then when everyone started to die, hated it even more, the last straw was with husband dying leaving me with kids and no family support. Every time I wanted to get back to NJ one thing or another pervented the move. My oldest daughter is back home living around the corner from where her father is buried,(he hated Fl as much as me and said he'd haunt me if I didn't bring him back to his mountains) and she loves the beautiful mountains, cool breezes and an occasional black bear in her yard. I long to walk the trails
sit on a bench and watch the leaves change, see snow fall and ice cicles form on the bare branches. But, as the years have gone by, the prices of homes has climbed beyond this ladies pocketbook, the NJ property taxes are more than I can afford.

Everytime I hear people talk about NJ I think lovingly of my mountains that I love so much, the memories of past good times and know that one day I will return if only to be reunited with my husband. I'm hoping that in the future I may be able to move North as far as my money will take me (NC) and close enough to visit NJ a couple of times a year. I hope the day will come when I can drive North and never look back on the terrible memories I have of FL.

If the opportunity arose, I would leave in a heartbeat. No beach can top the mountains at peak season in Fall, nor replace FAMILY.

[INeedAChange]

true, but then you would actually have to live in the outer boroughs and look at bleakness and ugliness all the time

Originally Posted by HockeyMom72

but it is cheaper to rent in any of the other boroughs (short train ride to Manhattan) than it is to rent 50 miles away on LI.