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Old 11-01-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Not that this is shocking news...

Real Time real-estate blog | The Palm Beach Post » Blog Archive » For Florida’s innovation economy, another swing and miss
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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Tell that to all these companies in Brevard county

Future of Space Coast big businesses...

Heck, this was just in the news a few days ago:

Embraer continues Florida investment, could add 600 more jobs - Jacksonville Business Journal

Earlier in the spring:

Northrop to create 920 jobs in Melbourne expansion: Northrop Grumman to create 920 jobs in Melbourne expansion, companywide consolidation - Orlando Sentinel
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Not really a landslide in job creation that outpaces the jobs lost along the Space Coast, also the data looks at a period over 5 years from 2007 to 2012. Anything that is happening right now is not included.

Florida should have been on the list prior since NASA was in full tilt during that time.

Also the report mentioned this "Florida also placed poorly in the Milken Institute’s tech and science ranking, and the Sunshine State continues to lag in venture capital investments."

A big lag in Venture Capital Investments is a big red flag...
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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Not really a landslide in job creation that outpaces the jobs lost along the Space Coast, also the data looks at a period over 5 years from 2007 to 2012. Anything that is happening right now is not included.
It is picking up though. Remember, even those the shuttle program is dead, there is still govt funding to be had for private contractors to lauch capsules (and eventually people) back into space. Think SpaceX, Boeing etc. And will NASA being in the space coast for so long, a lot of private companies have sprouted up in the area the last few decades. There are still hiring like I've posted above. The public ally-traded ones include Nothrup Grumman, Harris Corp, Boeing, GE, Rockwell Collins, Lockheed Martin etc.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Yeah, and your point is?
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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It is very easy to see that Florida does not and will never have high quality jobs. Move to this state if you want to be a server or bartender. If you want to be something more, you need to look elsewhere.
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Florida -
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Sometimes, these editorials only look at an isolated piece of the overall situation and don't really paint an accurate picture.

Florida has done quite well in Tech. Company hiring and economic expansion along the 'I-4 corridor' between Orlando and Melbourne (Nothrup Grumman, Harris Corp, Boeing, GE, Rockwell Collins, Lockheed Martin etc.). However, Brevard county took a significant hit with the shuttle program, that has offset much of the gains elsewhere.

Beyond that, there is not a large technology-driven economy elsewhere in Florida, which tends to hold down high-paying, statewide employment figures (tourism, service sector, construction). Palm Beach County (article) has never been much of an 'employment mecca.' On a positive note, the cost of living in Florida/Brevard/Orange is significantly lower than in the Ca. 'Silicone Valley and SF areas.' Generally speaking, the folks who work here, can also afford to live here!
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Wasn't Rick Scott supposed to be a job creation governor? Tech employees--right! He just spent $63 million to have Deloitte overhaul the unemployment insurance computer system. Does that count? And he then had to hire hundreds of temporary government employees and expand DEO hours to deal with the mess the new computer system generated. We have been reading how Florida is poised to become a tech company hub for the last 10 years, but I don't think it is an easy sell and like everything else in Fla, a lot of it is just hype. But Amazon is bringing two warehouses to Fla because if there is anything this state is good at, it is land development.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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If that is what someone aspires to do, yes, otherwise there is banking, insurance, public service, HVAC technicains, power company, telephone company, cable companies, IT, plumbers, electricians, designers, legal, manufacturing, agriculture, science, the entire medical field, truck drivers, warehouse, human resources, finance, marketing, accounting, administrative, sales, distribution, auto mechanics ... do I need to list more?


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It is very easy to see that Florida does not and will never have high quality jobs. Move to this state if you want to be a server or bartender. If you want to be something more, you need to look elsewhere.
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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It takes much more than just beautiful weather, low taxes and low cost of living. Most of these employees put a much higher value on quality of life than these other factors. Quality schools, recreation and cultural activities are very important. It's not just pure coincidence that most of these jobs are located in places with high taxes and cost of living such as silicon valley, Seattle, Boston, Chicago, Washington DC/Baltimore, Minneapolis. On the same token there are many in low tax, low cost of living areas such as Dallas/Ft. Worth, Raleigh-Durham, Austin. The common denominator here is the quality of life issues. Just about all these areas are consistently ranked in the "Best Places to Live" lists. They all have strong school systems, good mass transit, vibrant communities and diverse entertainment and cultural options. Once we get pasts simply trying to entice these jobs with beaches and no state taxes we will start making more headway.
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