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Old 12-20-2013, 02:43 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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I disagree, I don't believe that anyone looking to move to "paradise" will care about things like economy, infrastructure, ect, ect. I mean, they never did before?

LOL, many of them just care about the fact they're leaving NJ or NY, or a foreign country. So of course FL will continue to be appealing to those folks, lol.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:34 PM
 
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Yes and I was looking for examples in other overcrowded areas across the country where people have fled.
Try California. Easily much worse domestic emigration to other parts of the country, particularly among middle-class families that are being priced out of existence. In 2011, 120 people were leaving California for every 100 people moving in

Jobs Aren't Leaving California For Texas, But People Are - Forbes

Civic Report 71 | The Great California Exodus: A Closer Look

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What has caused California’s transformation from a “pull in” to a “push out” state? The data have revealed several crucial drivers. One is chronic economic adversity (in most years, California unemployment is above the national average). Another is density: the Los Angeles and Orange County region now has a population density of 6,999.3 per square mile—well ahead of New York or Chicago. Dense coastal areas are a source of internal migration, as people seek more space in California’s interior, as well as migration to other states. A third factor is state and local governments’ constant fiscal instability, which sends at least two discouraging messages to businesses and individuals. One is that they cannot count on state and local governments to provide essential services—much less, tax breaks or other incentives. Second, chronically out-of-balance budgets can be seen as tax hikes waiting to happen.

The data also reveal the motives that drive individuals and businesses to leave California. One of these, of course, is work. States with low unemployment rates, such as Texas, are drawing people from California, whose rate is above the national average. Taxation also appears to be a factor, especially as it contributes to the business climate and, in turn, jobs. Most of the destination states favored by Californians have lower taxes. States that have gained the most at California’s expense are rated as having better business climates. The data suggest that many cost drivers—taxes, regulations, the high price of housing and commercial real estate, costly electricity, union power, and high labor costs—are prompting businesses to locate outside California, thus helping to drive the exodus.
Emigration from California: Go east or north, young man | The Economist

California Migration: High Housing Prices, Not Jobs Or Taxes, Most Responsible For Pushing People Out, Report Finds
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:37 AM
 
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Yes and I was looking for examples in other overcrowded areas across the country where people have fled.
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I did a Google search and found no example of your question..
This is kind of an interesting article discussing top population migration patterns in 2010-2011. I found the third most popular state-to-state example surprising.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...cord-low/?_r=0
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:55 AM
 
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This is kind of an interesting article discussing top population migration patterns in 2010-2011. I found the third most popular state-to-state example surprising.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...cord-low/?_r=0
thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for!

this is intringuing:

New York to Florida (55,011)
Florida to Georgia (49,901)
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:02 AM
 
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thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for!

this is intringuing:

New York to Florida (55,011)
Florida to Georgia (49,901)
The more I thought about it the more it did make some sense. I think many Floridians have been put off by the rampant growth and mindless sprawl of areas like Orlando/Central Florida and are moving to places like Georgia which has a similar feel geographically (and a mild climate) without the overbuilt sprawl. Not to mention it's less expensive, typically safer and not a "one trick pony" economically.
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Yes and I was looking for examples in other overcrowded areas across the country where people have fled.

I like this map;

American Migration [Interactive Map] - Forbes

You have to fool around with it a bit, but I think it's pretty cool.
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:34 AM
 
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I like this map;

American Migration [Interactive Map] - Forbes

You have to fool around with it a bit, but I think it's pretty cool.
It's a little wonky I think since half of the numbers represent pre-2007 data which is before the housing bubble burst. Data from post-2007 and beyond 2010 would be more appropriate for the "current status".
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:49 AM
 
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The Gold rush caused some over crowding problems in California.

The Gold Rush of 1849 — History.com Articles, Video, Pictures and Facts
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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I still like it. The trends are interesting and I think the data from other states that are less volatile than Florida are more steady and easier to predict.
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Old 12-21-2013, 06:15 AM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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This is kind of an interesting article discussing top population migration patterns in 2010-2011. I found the third most popular state-to-state example surprising.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...cord-low/?_r=0

No, that's not surprising at all Kyle. Florida to Georgia. That's the number 1 destination of Floridians, Georgia. Then NC/SC. FL to GA is as popular as NY to FL or Puerto Rico to Orlando.

I like Oviedo a lot. But you have to wonder what FL will be like in the future. If the FL population is continuing to grow mainly by NY/NJ folks (and folks from foreign countries being 2nd), and Floridians are moving OUT, it's gonna (continue to) change a lot.

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