[leavin_florida]

If school populations are an indication = enrollment in our county has dropped two years in a row.

[gypsychic]

Here in our county, school enrollment is booming - an article in our paper said last summer that while some counties are losing school enrollment ours is growing exponentially. They have a huge budge to build new schools.

[compelled to reply]

Originally Posted by leavin_florida

If school populations are an indication = enrollment in our county has dropped two years in a row.

Aging population. Depending on what county you are talking about. Most of the urban counties have been becoming more "empty nester".

[tallrick]

Remember, Miami was super expeensive in 1925 and what happened a few years later? A worldwide economic downturn could cut off the flow of capital through Miami. If Miami fails, the rest of Florida will return to its senses.

[randian]

Florida, like California, has mandatory "smart growth" in place. Get rid of that if you want affordable housing. Otherwise, expect FL to be more and more like CA: lots and lots of land and nowhere to build means outrageous housing prices.

[Magnulus]

Originally Posted by randian

Florida, like California, has mandatory "smart growth" in place. Get rid of that if you want affordable housing. Otherwise, expect FL to be more and more like CA: lots and lots of land and nowhere to build means outrageous housing prices.

Right, and let Florida get taken over by even more subdivisions.

Affordable housing starts with offering a variety of housing that is located near employment. That is something that started in Florida only in the last couple of years. Detached single family houses tend to price certain groups out of the market.

California, like Florida, is not constrained by land, it is constrained by the shortage of water and the fact they cannot build enough roads to manage all the people that would want to drive on the roads. You cannot grow yourself out of the problems with affordable housing in Florida.

[randian]

Originally Posted by Magnulus

Right, and let Florida get taken over by even more subdivisions.

Less than 5% of Florida is covered by development. Florida is in no danger of being overrun.

Originally Posted by Magnulus

Affordable housing starts with offering a variety of housing that is located near employment. That is something that started in Florida only in the last couple of years. Detached single family houses tend to price certain groups out of the market.

"Near employment" is a meaningless term, since employers are located in many different places, just like housing is. There is no shortage of condos and apartments for people who can't afford to live in a single family home.

Originally Posted by Magnulus

California, like Florida, is not constrained by land, it is constrained by the shortage of water and the fact they cannot build enough roads to manage all the people that would want to drive on the roads. You cannot grow yourself out of the problems with affordable housing in Florida.

Can't build enough? More like won't build enough. Look at Houston if you want to see a place that grew a lot and kept housing affordable. How is it that a place as wet as Florida has a water shortage?

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by tallrick

Remember, Miami was super expeensive in 1925 and what happened a few years later? A worldwide economic downturn could cut off the flow of capital through Miami. WHEN Miami fails, the rest of Florida will return to its senses.

fixed that for you bro

[SirenSong71]

I guess it's all relative... My hubby has a friend who lives in Tampa and complains that his property tax and HOI are too expensive. While I agree that the HOI is expensive, his taxes are a pittance at $1700. We live in Pa and our taxes are $7200 we have a house that's about 2300 sq ft on a 1/3 an acre. That's nothing. I have family that lives in central Jersey and for a house the same size of mine but a lot less than half the size their taxes are $15,000! Can you imagine?? I thought our taxes were bad. I guess it's just relative to where you live, while I think $1700 is just fine for me I can't imagine paying $15,000.

[macguy]

Originally Posted by SirenSong71

I guess it's all relative... My hubby has a friend who lives in Tampa and complains that his property tax and HOI are too expensive. While I agree that the HOI is expensive, his taxes are a pittance at $1700. We live in Pa and our taxes are $7200 we have a house that's about 2300 sq ft on a 1/3 an acre. That's nothing. I have family that lives in central Jersey and for a house the same size of mine but a lot less than half the size their taxes are $15,000! Can you imagine?? I thought our taxes were bad. I guess it's just relative to where you live, while I think $1700 is just fine for me I can't imagine paying $15,000.

They must have SOH's because otherwise to have a $1700.00 tax bill they would have to be living in a trailer or a shack worth like $80,000. $1700.00 is not a real example of Florida taxes. My neighbor pays $14,000. I have SOH's so I pay much less.