[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Zaba

Florida has a HUGE contingent of what can only be described as the 'degenerate right'.
Hateful, regressive, entire lives revolve around gun ownership, facial hair/dark tinted glasses, fascist retards. They exist everywhere but we have more than our fair share. More than AZ.

Obviously, they oppose any law that disempowers law enforcement (THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!!) to arrest people, particularly the groups that marijuana laws were originally drafted to specifically target and still, to this day, disproportionately effect.

The fact that they oppose doctors being able to prescribe marijuana to ill people shows just how sick and moronic they are.

Except 58% of Floridians voted for mm, more than any governor has received in the last six elections.

Stop reading media headlines and use your brain to judge our state. FL has come a long way and is no longer socially "conservative"like the rest of the deep south. This recent election on mm proved that. We just couldn't reach the high bar of 60%

[Zaba]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Except 58% of Floridians voted for mm, more than any governor has received in the last six elections.

Stop reading media headlines and use your brain to judge our state. FL has come a long way and is no longer socially "conservative"like the rest of the deep south. This recent election on mm proved that. We just couldn't reach the high bar of 60%

The fact that Florida couldn't get 60% of voters to vote for medical marijuana is very much evidence of the moron fringe right that is much larger in Florida than other places.

[Jo48]

Oxycodone script from my "MY" doctor is fine. That is the problem with idiots.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Zaba

The fact that Florida couldn't get 60% of voters to vote for medical marijuana is very much evidence of the moron fringe right that is much larger in Florida than other places.

Proof?

The other states never passed it via popular vote, it was done by the legislature.

Again, if you want to trash a state, try not to look foolish doing it. The "right" in FL is a "fringe", unlike in other deep south states where it is mainstream.

The clear majority of Floridians support MM and even gay marriage.

Poll: 75% of Florida Voters Support Gay Marriage | Local | News | SFGN Articles

[Zaba]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Proof?

What are you asking for 'proof' of?
Are you asking for 'proof' that Florida couldn't get 60% of voters to pass Medical Marijuana? That isn't arguable.

Or are you asking for 'proof' of an observation and insight into qualitative dynamics of the population that may be lacking in formalized studies but are nevertheless empirically true, in spite of the fact that some people are less observant than others?

"Boy, that box wine sure tastes terrible compared to that Petrus..."

"U GOT PROOF????????????????????"



25% of all Congressman in Florida are affiliated with the Tea Party.
California, in spite of having 53 congressional districts and almost double the population, has three Congressmen affiliated with the tea party, or about 5%.

PROOF????????????????????????

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Zaba

What are you asking for 'proof' of?
Are you asking for 'proof' that Florida couldn't get 60% of voters to pass Medical Marijuana? That isn't arguable.

Or are you asking for 'proof' of an observation and insight into qualitative dynamics of the population that may be lacking in formalized studies but are nevertheless empirically true, in spite of the fact that some people are less observant than others?

"Boy, that box wine sure tastes terrible compared to that Petrus..."

"U GOT PROOF????????????????????"



25% of all Congressman in Florida are affiliated with the Tea Party.
California, in spite of having 53 congressional districts and almost double the population, has three Congressmen affiliated with the tea party, or about 5%.

PROOF????????????????????????

Arbitrary much? The majority of people support socially progressive causes in this state. If you want a state like California, GTFO and move there.

[bbronston]

Medical marijuana wasnt rejected, the poorly written amendment to the state constitution was, and it was rejected in greater proportions as a direct correlation to voter age. As voter age increased, a smaller percentage voted yes to the amendment. Personally, I believe that is a reflection of the tendency for older, more experienced, voters to look beyond the surface and consider the big picture.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elec...FL/I1/exitpoll

If the amendment had simply given doctors the right to prescribe medical marijuana products, I'm sure it would have passed easily.

[Zaba]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Arbitrary much? The majority of people support socially progressive causes in this state. If you want a state like California, GTFO and move there.

I see. So you ask for some demonstrative element of the hardcore, fringe-in-other-places element being mainstream in Florida. I point out that 25% of the Congressmen are avowed tea partiers and you call that 'arbitrary'?

Do you even understand what the word 'arbitrary' means?
Also, as a unicorn known as a "Florida native", I am GTFO proof, however a bit more morally well-heeled to say exactly that to anyone who didn't grow up here.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by Casper10

Well what is "mind numbing" is that 51% used to be the majority everywhere except here in Florida where it is now 60%!
As for Florida being "Socially Conservative"? I think that rings true on some issues ( I am thinking Grannies with "blue hair" that shop at Publix!) but not like the "religious" freaks you see in other"Southern" states.
Florida will have Gay Marriage & MM eventually.

Florida has gotten rid of some of its social conservatism, which is good. The last thing we need though, is to end up like a Detroit or a Stockton because of fiscally liberal policies.

[NeonGecko]

Originally Posted by pilotpair

BillS111 and NeonGecko - Amendment 2 has no effect on the federal government. Doctors could be arrested and sued under FEDERAL LAW regardless of anything in Florida state law.

It's touching that you think all doctors are honest and well meaning, but most adults have figured out that a percentage will do anything for a buck. Under Florida state law, they won't be subject to any constraints on their behavior.

Every crooked pill mill doctor loves Amendment 2, but I bet not even one doctor at the reputable places - Mayo Clinic, Shands hospital, etc. - will be providing 'physician certifications.'

Utter nonsense. In point of fact, the federal government has repeatedly confirmed that they have no intention of pursuing the arrest of doctors who recommend medical marijuana use. So, protection at the state level is entirely warranted.

The idea that they "won't be subject to any constraints on their behavior" is laughable. They are subject to the exact same constraints that prevent them from prescribing oxycodon, valium, or heroin to anybody who asks. Doctors can still lose their medical licenses for unethical conduct like that. Which is very nearly as bad as being arrested - and is sufficient deterrence for most of them, just as it is in the case of over or improperly prescribing pain killers, opiates, and things like Xanax.

Are there docs who already bend those rules for all they're worth for existing prescription meds? Yes, there are. Is legalizing pot going to cause a sudden surge in the numbers of docs willing to do that? No, it is not. It'll be the same docs pushing the edges for all they're worth. That situation already exists; marijuana isn't going to affect their behavior one way or the other - except it might result in a few of them abandoning dangerous things like oxycodone in favor of pot (harmless) instead. That's all to the good, IMNSHO.

Again - legal pot in Florida is not going to result in the whole state bursting into an endless reggae party. If for no other reason than the fact that there is a serious dearth of steel drums in the state, LOL!