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Old 12-09-2014, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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This BMW 335xi dude keeps schooling you cats on the facts and he is making you guys look like a fool. I think its funny.
I never realized the name "BMW 335xi", in reference to the car, meh I would not step lower than a M3 and I had a couple of those over the years...but I finally stepped up to a M5 and have not looked back and now I'm eyeing up a i8, but won't be getting one till the prices come back to earth, not going to be a "fool" and pay insane mark-ups over MSRP just because all the HNW people have to have one.

Again though, your wrong on your assumption of "facts" more "fiction" and make believe, but if you think Orlando is great place I heard Epcot will soon be opening a ride that makes you believe your actually making a great wage in South Florida only to find out it was only a ride at the end...those Disney Imagineers!
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: US
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This BMW 335xi dude keeps schooling you cats on the facts and he is making you guys look like a fool. I think its funny.
LOL, you're great!
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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This BMW 335xi dude keeps schooling you cats on the facts and he is making you guys look like a fool. I think its funny.
I actually think it's scary how misinformed he is.

Unfortunately, FL has a low-wage service-oriented economy with a strong hospitality/tourism orientation and a very limited corporate presence. There are very few well-paying sectors with a major foothold in the state such as STEM, investment banking, and O&G to name a few. Moreover, FL has one of the lowest ratios of F1000 companies per 1 million residents of any state, yet it's nearly the third largest state in terms of population. Even sectors such as manufacturing, trade, and O&G that usually offer uneducated, low-skill employees living wages and a shot at upward economic mobility are virtually non-existent in the state.

Needless to say, salaries for early, mid, and late-careerists alike are largely noncompetitive in the domestic and global markets, not to mention disproportionate the increasingly high COL. With low union participation rates and a strong RTW orientation, most employees in FL lack collective bargaining rights that help raise wages.

With regard to the RTW issue in particular, most HR personnel in FL don't even know what RTW means, by the way. I worked in HR in FL for a number of years, and our HR manager was completely embarrassed in a training seminar by a recently hired employee for her gross misuse of the term, indicating that employees could be "terminated at any time and for any reason because FL is a RTW state." Well, I'll have you know that new hire put her in check. I'll never forget that blunder, either, but stuff like that was common in FL -- not only did people lack core competencies for their positions, they also severely lacked basic knowledge and, perhaps more significantly, common sense. Alarming, to say the least, but certainly indicative of the state's lackluster public educational system.

For those who refrain from pursuing an advanced degree (i.e., Master's or beyond) in select fields such as medicine, nursing, health care administration, or law, your high-paying career opportunities are going to be severely limited. Even hospitality management, which would *SEEM* like a well-paying career route, is a pretty bleak field in terms of compensation (e.g., Marketing Directors at Marriott with MBA's make $45-50k).

However, my biggest issues with FL is the benefits issue. In FL, It's common for workers, even office workers, to not be offered non-wage benefits, especially health insurance. Recently, the South FL metro area finished last among the top 50 or 100 major metro areas in the country in terms of percent of population with health insurance, so I'm not just whistlin' Dixie. Even CNA's, who expose themselves to illness and disease every single day, have no health insurance. That's unheard of in states like CA, NY, TX, et al.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:10 PM
 
Location: US
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Yes, I am so misinformed by having lived in Orlando, South Florida and now San Francisco. You obviously are more informed from never having lived here

In case you missed it...

Median Household Income in Fort Lauderdale: $4,182/month ($50,191)
Average 2 bedroom Rent in Fort Lauderdale: $1,528/month

Median Household Income in San Francisco: $6,084/month ($73,012)
Average 2 bedroom Rent in San Francisco: $3,859/month

Please don't make me have to do the math for you. It's clear for the average household, which city is easier to survive. Not to mention, the cost of living in San Francisco is higher in every single category besides utilities and you need to trim almost 10% off for state income taxes.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Bmore, The cursed land of -> Hotlanta -> Charlotte
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Looks like BMW just got schooled...
Pretty sure everything he just said was about alot more than COL..
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Bmore, The cursed land of -> Hotlanta -> Charlotte
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So wait, how much do you need to be making to live in SF? Lol and we all know how vague "living wages" are. Im talking like after alllll your bills and car/insurance.food for the month is paid off, and still have atleast 150 left a month.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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You are so blind lol.

You need to compare apples to apples.

You don't compare a person making $65k in Florida to someone making $250k in SF.

You don't compare a typical salary for Florida ($40k) to a $3,500/month home in Florida.

Is this difficult to understand?

I can't make it any more clear than this.

Median Household Income in Fort Lauderdale: $4,182/month ($50,191)
Average 2 bedroom Rent in Fort Lauderdale: $1,528/month

Median Household Income in San Francisco: $6,084/month ($73,012)
Average 2 bedroom Rent in San Francisco: $3,859/month


Please don't make me have to do the math for you. It's clear for the average household, which city is easier to survive. Not to mention, the cost of living in San Francisco is higher in every single category besides utilities and you need to trim almost 10% off for state income taxes.

And if you think I make $40k, well good for you. I'm not here to share my tax returns lol. It shows how desperate you are at trying to make a point you know nothing about. And I do plan to move back to Florida. I own a 1/1 bedroom condo in San Francisco (current value $500k) and a lakefront 4/4 SFR in Orlando. I've enjoyed my time in San Francisco, but I'm ready to have my pool and space again. My GF's family's house in San Francisco is worth $1.6 million and it would be equivalent to a $150k-$200k house in most parts of Florida. I'm starting to get old (27) so it's time to start settling down. I have neighbors that make over six figures, yet their family of 5 lives in a 2 bedroom and that's the norm here. Whatever, you know better than me, right (even though I lived throughout Florida and currently live in SF)... you can move here with hopes the average job pays $250k here.
Again there you go again, $250K, did I say that? Appears you are the one that needs some coke bottle glasses...

Again SF City, not SF Bay Area, why is that hard to grasp? It's more affordable to not live in the City opposed to locations elsewhere, very high COL yes, but not as bad as SF City Limits, that's a fact and I hope you have some ability to figure that out.

Well you are harping that $40K in South Florida is means to the Golden Ticket, that is a joke and do not mislead people as your setting them up for failure.

That's quite sad, your 27 and old, own a $500K condo in SF "free and clear", a 4/4 SFR in Orlando of course its' lakefront what else and a 335xi yet are not even clearing $250K, that's just amazing, so maybe to you $40K in South Florida is a lot of money afterall....I see right through you.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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Nobody wants to live in SF with the cost of living that high, who wants to pay California's taxes, its like living in a socialist state.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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So wait, how much do you need to be making to live in SF? Lol and we all know how vague "living wages" are. Im talking like after alllll your bills and car/insurance.food for the month is paid off, and still have atleast 150 left a month.
Monopoly Money and the Internet can make anyone Bill Gates...
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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There is a reason why rich athletes who are often black and are mostly liberals who vote Dem live in Florida and Texas mostly instead of California and NY. Nobody wants to pay that much in taxes.
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