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Old 12-22-2014, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Florida is an okay state. I feel very fortunate to have grown up there. It's a very unique state with unique cultures, weather, and geography. But there are a ton of negatives too. Best state? Doubt it. If it was, I'd be there now. I have no interest in ever moving back.
I see you did not mention "Jobs" well...20+ years here, cant' complain but it's not really me who feels the pain as much as others who move or moved here thinking it's some Utopia with great weather and ton's of great paying jobs to go along with it. Many don't mind taking a huge salary cut, or if they find a job in their field working for below market or dumbing themselves down working in a field totally out of their chosen professional and not getting any enlightenment from their job at all...just to have the Margaritaville lifestyle and that's fine, but for many it's not a wise move in the long term.

Don't get me wrong, it works for some people, Medical and Fire Rescue Employees mainly make above average wages and can live high on the hog here, jobs like mine are not common and tools to get a job like mine are not easily obtained, so I'm just lucky. Looking at other fields like STEM, knowing what it takes to get a Engineering degree from my friends and neighbor who tell me stories, they are not crying or moaning but just saying, seems like a imbalance for them and other professions. So moving here is a sacrifice for many...
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Old 12-22-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Sure. We'll take your hyperbole and accept it as fact.

Please, enlighten us as to where it's "not on FL's level," and be sure to present hard evidence to support your claim.
Have you ever been out of Tampa or the state in general? Does not sound like you have an open mind.

My life experiences and those I know beg to differ, I'm working on a book of facts I'll give you the 1st copy signed of course...still waiting for Simon and Schuster to approve my proposal. I plan on making a Florida edition, will have extra large font and grammar will be dropped down to grade level 5 for ease of reading.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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I see you did not mention "Jobs" well...20+ years here, cant' complain but it's not really me who feels the pain as much as others who move or moved here thinking it's some Utopia with great weather and ton's of great paying jobs to go along with it. Many don't mind taking a huge salary cut, or if they find a job in their field working for below market or dumbing themselves down working in a field totally out of their chosen professional and not getting any enlightenment from their job at all...just to have the Margaritaville lifestyle and that's fine, but for many it's not a wise move in the long term.

Don't get me wrong, it works for some people, Medical and Fire Rescue Employees mainly make above average wages and can live high on the hog here, jobs like mine are not common and tools to get a job like mine are not easily obtained, so I'm just lucky. Looking at other fields like STEM, knowing what it takes to get a Engineering degree from my friends and neighbor who tell me stories, they are not crying or moaning but just saying, seems like a imbalance for them and other professions. So moving here is a sacrifice for many...
Oh yeah I hear ya. I encourage anyone looking to have an actual career outside of blue collar industries to stay clear from Florida.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Tampa
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Have you ever been out of Tampa or the state in general? Does not sound like you have an open mind.

My life experiences and those I know beg to differ, I'm working on a book of facts I'll give you the 1st copy signed of course...still waiting for Simon and Schuster to approve my proposal. I plan on making a Florida edition, will have extra large font and grammar will be dropped down to grade level 5 for ease of reading.
Uh yeah, 34 years elsewhere. Nice try, though.

Let us know when you have anything to back up your ridiculous hyperbole.


"My life experiences." "Those I know." Sounds like some cold hard facts! LOL
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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Soot Life That's a hoot. Sounds like a awesome place to call home.
Soot life is a company out of cape coral florida
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Oh yeah I hear ya. I encourage anyone looking to have an actual career outside of blue collar industries to stay clear from Florida.
Likewise, but many do not heed the warnings...it's like watching Dumb and Dumber..."So you're telling me there's a chance"
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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If your goal is the "right field" you may be in the wrong place. Yep. a good ole boy state. It pays to know people with the juice here. Its not much different than NYC where you need to be the son of a member to join certain unions. The good ole boys look at northerners as carpet baggers, sneaks, thieves and con artists with no moral fiber. Good ole boys dont stab each other in the back.
I can't think of anyplace in this world where it's not a matter of "who you know". Can you?
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:23 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Have you ever been out of Tampa or the state in general? Does not sound like you have an open mind.

My life experiences and those I know beg to differ, I'm working on a book of facts I'll give you the 1st copy signed of course...still waiting for Simon and Schuster to approve my proposal. I plan on making a Florida edition, will have extra large font and grammar will be dropped down to grade level 5 for ease of reading.
Thanks for the heads up. We'll remember that when we see your book in the $1.00 bargain bin at our local Barnes and Noble.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Uh yeah, 34 years elsewhere. Nice try, though.

Let us know when you have anything to back up your ridiculous hyperbole.


"My life experiences." "Those I know." Sounds like some cold hard facts! LOL
You sure like the term "hyperbole", a little overkill usage.

I cannot divulge details on companies, now can I? Not everyone shares the same life experiences and opinions differ, but the majority of experiences and what was gained from face to face conversations and what I read, sum up many experiences to reflect negatively on the workplace in Florida. You really cannot dig up "Statistics" on this other than see turnover in a company. That is hard and exist all over because it's often due to other things, poor pay, Boss is too hard to work under and etc.

If you had it rosy the entire time you lived here or came from elsewhere with similar experiences, sure you would be like...what you talking about Willis? Everyplace is just the same isn't it? Why do all these people complain? Well of course, many have a lack of empathy in the workplace because they are not getting the s end of the stick.

Suggest you go out and socialize with young and middle-aged professionals, that's why I do and I hear plenty complaining and also some who do not get it or understand why people dislike the job market in Florida. Their view is, it's warm, sunny, girls wearing skimpy bikinis while its' snowing and cold and grey elsewhere, stop complaining, except those things don't pay the rent...
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Palm Beach, FL & Napa, CA
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Thanks for the heads up. We'll remember that when we see your book in the $1.00 bargain bin at our local Barnes and Noble.
Only thing you missed, it's going to be free so no bargain bin... I'm working with the Gideons on this, you know they have a bible in every hotel room, so it would be free and in every hotel room, mainly Orlando for those people who have stars in their eyes on a trip to Disney, Epcot or Universal, "I wanna move here with the kids". Also it be handed out at the Florida Welcome Center with a free sample of Orange Juice made from oranges sourced out of South America to enjoy while you read it.

I'm working with scientists to insure the ink and printing will not be altered to say otherwise by rose tinted glasses, this has been a challenge...much like in the 1988 film starring Roddy Piper "They Live"...the expression on his face was priceless...
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