[CJFlorida]

Originally Posted by CURT

do you mean the services that I pay for through the property taxes that I pay for with the money I earn at my job? yes I use those services. and I also have no problem with sharing if others need help. But that is for those that need help. I dont want to pay any amount towards helping someone use welfare as a life style. I dont care how litlle an amount it is compared to all the other waste. There are many roads to ride to tackle all the waste.

That type of approach would be backwards. No matter what business or social issue you are trying to improve, tackle the biggest problems/sources of waste first.

Trickle down never works when giving tons of breaks to the top 1/10th percent. And trickle up never works when tackling waste.

You could remove all welfare waste and if you don't tackle the huge defense/corporate welfare waste, you won't do much at all. In fact, they will find a way to steal any tax savings gained by cutting welfare and put it right into defense spending with their friend's companies...guaranteed!

Our Vice President went seamlessly from defense secretary to running a huge defense contractor to Vice President of an administration who gave his old company its biggest contract ever!! And he will go right back to a defense contractor. And they all do it from both political parties. The waste in this area dwarfs all else.

[CURT]

Originally Posted by CJFlorida

That type of approach would be backwards. No matter what business or social issue you are trying to improve, tackle the biggest problems/sources of waste first.

Trickle down never works when giving tons of breaks to the top 1/10th percent. And trickle up never works when tackling waste.

You could remove all welfare waste and if you don't tackle the huge defense/corporate welfare waste, you won't do much at all. In fact, they will find a way to steal any tax savings gained by cutting welfare and put it right into defense spending with their friend's companies...guaranteed!

Our Vice President went seamlessly from defense secretary to running a huge defense contractor to Vice President of an administration who gave his old company its biggest contract ever!! And he will go right back to a defense contractor. And they all do it from both political parties. The waste in this area dwarfs all else.

youre talking about a current administration. I'm talking about a history of social programs.

[Petertherock]

And the Democrats took over Congress and promised to end pork. This was what Nancy Pelosi said she would do. However, under her watch congress has done nothing but increase the pork. She was one of the worst ones for pork too. Maybe that's why congress has a lower approval rating then the President.

[sunrico90]

Originally Posted by INeedAChange

Will crime increase?

Will home prices continue to drop?

Lets get back to the OP, don't make it a political thread.....

[Wild Style]

Originally Posted by CURT

do you mean the services that I pay for through the property taxes that I pay for with the money I earn at my job? yes I use those services. and I also have no problem with sharing if others need help. But that is for those that need help. I dont want to pay any amount towards helping someone use welfare as a life style. I dont care how litlle an amount it is compared to all the other waste. There are many roads to ride to tackle all the waste.

agree with u 100%

[hiknapster]

Well, I was fresh out of school during the severe recession of the early '80s. It didn't affect everyone, but it did me. Jobs were hard to come by and it was very rough going for awhile.

However, this time there are people sitting in homes with high mortgage payments and a recession can be the difference between being able to make it work and facing foreclosure. That's on top of the people that are already getting thrown out of their homes. And of course, that has a ripple effect, for auto makers, boat builders, restaurants, etc. For that reason, this recession could be widespread.

Then there are the banks that keep writing down billions. This recession could feel like a depression.

[karena]

Originally Posted by CJFlorida

That type of approach would be backwards. No matter what business or social issue you are trying to improve, tackle the biggest problems/sources of waste first.

Trickle down never works when giving tons of breaks to the top 1/10th percent. And trickle up never works when tackling waste.

You could remove all welfare waste and if you don't tackle the huge defense/corporate welfare waste, you won't do much at all. In fact, they will find a way to steal any tax savings gained by cutting welfare and put it right into defense spending with their friend's companies...guaranteed!

Our Vice President went seamlessly from defense secretary to running a huge defense contractor to Vice President of an administration who gave his old company its biggest contract ever!! And he will go right back to a defense contractor. And they all do it from both political parties. The waste in this area dwarfs all else.

I truly believe welfare waste is just a smokescreen for the waste that goes on higher up It is what we see on a daily basis but the other waste is somewhat hidden unless you turn your attention to it.

[momma123]

A recession will not effect florida any different then the rest of the country

[CJFlorida]

Originally Posted by momma123

A recession will not effect florida any different then the rest of the country

Sure it will. Recessions effect various states in different ways. State's economies are dependent on different things. A state that has a ton of agricultural revenue does much better than a state that depends on tourism or construction for large portions of its revenue.

People continue to eat the basics during a recession, but they cut down on luxuries and travel.

[kwflconch]

I think house prices are going to drop massively probably about 40%-70%. And that there are going to be jobs layed which causes is going to cause more people to leave Fla. I think that home sales will drop even further with foreclosures rising and housing construction collapsing. There will be drops in school enrollment unfortnately and crimes will rise a lot due to people not having jobs and money to buy things for their family. We might even see something like the 1930s Depression which would further collapse Florida and the US's economy.