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Old 04-12-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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It would be great to live anywhere if people did their homework - but that's the problem with Florida, it attracts a lot of people who used to like to skip homework in high school...
To go to the beach.
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Old 04-12-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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I have relatives that moved here from the Middle East with no savings and become millionaires over time, it can be done, granted it is tougher now than in the past. You have to strong work ethic, strong will and be a tough minded person and learn from your failures. You have to have a dream but a dream without a plan is just a wish.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:39 AM
 
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I have relatives that moved here from the Middle East with no savings and become millionaires over time, it can be done, granted it is tougher now than in the past. You have to strong work ethic, strong will and be a tough minded person and learn from your failures. You have to have a dream but a dream without a plan is just a wish.
The problem is, there are a lot more (the vast majority) of people that want to take the easy route instead of working their asses off for something. We all know successful people and people that work hard, but we also all know people who are lazy, not willing to work and feel entitled.

My relatives are the type that 'hope' things will happen instead of making things happen. I just think they believe that once they don't have to deal with nasty winters, that life will be better. That if they're having a bad day, they can just go to the beach, sit under a palm tree and all their troubles will go away.
Granted, that's what Jimmy Buffett says we should do, but in reality, that's not how life works.
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:45 AM
 
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I have a relative who is somewhat of a dreamer. He/she's tired of living in their Midwest state and thinks everything will be better in life if they can just get to the Sunshine state. "We'll worry about jobs/money, etc when we get there, but first we got to get there." I honestly believe that a 'beach bum' is an actual lifestyle.

Sort of reminds me of the Guns n Roses video "Welcome to the Jungle" about the small town kid who takes the bus to Hollywood to try and make it big.
Everytime I see a beat-up car driving south on I-95 that's loaded for the move, I think the same thing.

I'm sure there are tons of these types of stories that don't end well.
Here is the classic "move to Flariduh" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad5paRXNWVg




Edit: someone else also posted it......sorry
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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The problem is, there are a lot more (the vast majority) of people that want to take the easy route instead of working their asses off for something. We all know successful people and people that work hard, but we also all know people who are lazy, not willing to work and feel entitled.

My relatives are the type that 'hope' things will happen instead of making things happen. I just think they believe that once they don't have to deal with nasty winters, that life will be better. That if they're having a bad day, they can just go to the beach, sit under a palm tree and all their troubles will go away.
Granted, that's what Jimmy Buffett says we should do, but in reality, that's not how life works.
1. Jimmy Buffet is a multi-millionaire that lives in Palm Beach, not Key West
2. Florida is full of people with burnt out dreams. Left Main Street, USA years ago with dreams of renting beach chairs to tourists while drinking Margaritas all day but instead wound up in a dead end job barely making ends meet.
3. While FL is a great vacation destination for most, it becomes an oasis for many that really turns out to be a mirage!
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Old 04-14-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Great thread. And StarfishKey...wish I could give you more reps!
My story..
I went down on Spring break before most of you were born...first snow
to hit Buffalo, NY, dropped outta college and drove to Key West...a world
I had never known...sun and warmth in WINTER! Yay!
Had a new car, money and a doggy...I did crash on a guy's couch one night before
I could find a place, didn't want to waste $$ on a motel, had to conserve for a security deposit...
15 years later ran into him in Gainesville!

A cottage was $60 a month...a small apartment on Fleming, pretty close
to the library, was even cheaper, can't remember.

Always had a job, sometimes roommates, lived there 3 years,
but, one summer cheated and left for
Prince Edward Island (Nova Scotia) and Bar Harbor, ME, tho...
Eventually moved to Winter Park, then school in Gainesville...
still like good weather so now in CO.

I heard a few years later rents had quadrupled, the whole place had 'been discovered'.

StarfishKey is correct, now every square inch is owned and protected by
neighbors watching everything.

No mention of camping areas so far...I parked one day at one only to
picnic for the day and my perfect bike rack was stolen leaving only the connector straps...what
good was it then?
Sad day for me, and an eye opener.

Eyes are on you
, also, if you plan on parking 'unnoticed' in a hotel's
parking lot to sleep. You will get a knock on your window.
Perhaps one night if you blended in, in between cars, you could get lucky, once.
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:59 AM
 
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It would be great to live anywhere if people did their homework - but that's the problem with Florida, it attracts a lot of people who used to like to skip homework in high school...
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To go to the beach.
More like those that would like to go out and smoke one (you choose what) in the parking lot.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:59 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Great thread. And StarfishKey...wish I could give you more reps!
My story..
I went down on Spring break before most of you were born...first snow
to hit Buffalo, NY, dropped outta college and drove to Key West...a world
I had never known...sun and warmth in WINTER! Yay!
Had a new car, money and a doggy...I did crash on a guy's couch one night before
I could find a place, didn't want to waste $$ on a motel, had to conserve for a security deposit...
15 years later ran into him in Gainesville!

A cottage was $60 a month...a small apartment on Fleming, pretty close
to the library, was even cheaper, can't remember.

Always had a job, sometimes roommates, lived there 3 years,
but, one summer cheated and left for
Prince Edward Island (Nova Scotia) and Bar Harbor, ME, tho...
Eventually moved to Winter Park, then school in Gainesville...
still like good weather so now in CO.

I heard a few years later rents had quadrupled, the whole place had 'been discovered'.

StarfishKey is correct, now every square inch is owned and protected by
neighbors watching everything.

No mention of camping areas so far...I parked one day at one only to
picnic for the day and my perfect bike rack was stolen leaving only the connector straps...what
good was it then?
Sad day for me, and an eye opener.

Eyes are on you
, also, if you plan on parking 'unnoticed' in a hotel's
parking lot to sleep. You will get a knock on your window.
Perhaps one night if you blended in, in between cars, you could get lucky, once.
Might that be because the Keys, (including Key West), in being discovered, are overbuilt and overpopulated and those who came to enjoy "paradise" have now ruined it?

I remember visiting the Keys in the late 70's, before all the building. While I'm sure they were more pristine before then, there were efforts to keep the building and population to a minimum so as to preserve the unique qualities of the Keys. One of the stated reasons for not widening the Overseas Highway was to discourage ever increasing traffic, and at one point building beyond a certain point was discouraged. I remember fights between environmentalists, local politicians and developers about building in the Keys and bringing in businesses and infrastructure to support the hypothetical increase in the human population,
and it looks like around the time of Hurricane Andrew when a number of escapees from the devastation of this storm moved to the Keys for good, the developers won out.

The Keys, IMO, are an overdeveloped 130 mile long tourist trap, and while you can see the natural beauty in those spots that have not yet fallen to a developers ambitions and the arrival of more folks seeking "paradise", it makes me sad to see what man has done to that amazing part of the world.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA
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Do you think there is a place that is kind of like the Keys in the early days...
undiscovered? With Palm trees?
Probably wrong thread.

But I was thinking maybe 30 minutes inland from most beaches?
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:18 PM
 
Location: FLORIDA
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1. Jimmy Buffet is a multi-millionaire that lives in Palm Beach, not Key West
2. Florida is full of people with burnt out dreams. Left Main Street, USA years ago with dreams of renting beach chairs to tourists while drinking Margaritas all day but instead wound up in a dead end job barely making ends meet.
3. While FL is a great vacation destination for most, it becomes an oasis for many that really turns out to be a mirage!

Last I heard, he moved to the NC mountains.
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