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Old 09-30-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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The boomer rush to get a piece of "paradise" will fade (we are over the last hump of "booming growth") then florida will be passe (kind of sort of is already) I dont see Millenials running to come live in tacky florida.
The people who study the subject of FL in the near future and beyond would strongly disagree.
You have nothing that backis up your opinion.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:20 PM
 
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You have nothing that backis up your opinion.
Do you really want me to show you the charts and embarrass you in front of your northern transplant internet buddies?
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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The people who study the subject of FL in the near future and beyond would strongly disagree.
You have nothing that backis up your opinion.
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Do you really want me to show you the charts and embarrass you in front of your northern transplant internet buddies?
It is pretty well documented that Florida is losing the battle for the young and educated, as while we gain population numbers it's shown to be mostly retirement age individuals or the unskilled/uneducated.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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It is pretty well documented that Florida is losing the battle for the young and educated, as while we gain population numbers it's shown to be mostly retirement age individuals or the unskilled/uneducated.
Which makes it easier for young folks like myself and others I know to thrive here, given the lack of competent competition.
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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Which makes it easier for young folks like myself and others I know to thrive here, given the lack of competent competition.
LOL, there is that!
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Old 09-30-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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Not to the extent you'll find them in Florida.

My hometown has a meth problem and the people here still make fun of Florida's.


I wonder where the people there get their information. I wonder what would cause them to choose FL as the state where the largest drug problem exists.

The state with the biggest drug problem: It's Vermont.


Are you the latest new comer who wants to bash FL?

Think about it. FL is the 3rd largest state in the U.S. 20 million people are not here to work minimum wage jobs, buying houses (more than 65% of FL residents own a home) and living a nice lifestyle. 20 million and 1,000 or so coming to live here each day. Yes, lots of people move out of FL every day but the population numbers increase year after year. There must be some good reasons for people to come here.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:27 PM
 
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"A bag of heroin that would cost $5 in a big city can sell for as much as $30 in Rutland, Vt." People in Rutland have $30? Not when I lived there they didn't, at least not the majority of them. It's one of those run down mill towns with a bar on the corner and the local social worker moonlights as a junky. The local radio station plays a desperately upbeat brand of cheesy pop music, almost bordering on Christian rock. It's enough to make you throw up in your mouth a little.

Vermont's had a drug problem for decades, but it has gotten worse in recent years. It used to be mostly just pot heads coasting through life. But in recent years, crack seems to have made its way there into the hands of many of the youths. It's sad really.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:40 PM
 
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Ah, but we aren't leaving. We weren't there at all.

Millennials chase after cities, but there are cities in places other than Florida. Young people tend to head West, and though you point to the coastal cities they actually aren't quite as strong a symbol as you think. Denver is definitely the city that most symbolizes where Millennials go and how they change the places they move to, though Portland is fairly close for those slightly wealthier and is on the coast. Not every Millennial hotspot is an SF-style tech-obsessed mess. Another city to have seen huge Millennial growth is Austin, which is absolutely not coastal and probably not even Western depending on how you define Texas.

I don't live in America, but I live in my country's equivalent of the rust belt and will be headed to the US at the first possible opportunity (helps that I know more about it than I do my home country). Just like my peers, I'm after vibrant city life...which those places you mentioned absolutely do not offer, in my mind and the mind of my peers, by any stretch of the imagination. Orlando? Panama City? Cape Coral?! You may as well be listing off random Nebraska towns and claiming they're the new hotspots -- at least they don't get the mad news reports everywhere in Florida does! (I chase excitement, but the excitement I chase is not anything you see in repositories of Florida news. I have no interest in living anywhere with a meth problem.)

Florida gets a lot of population growth and will continue to until all the Boomers wanting to move there have. This will take a while, but it does not mean that you will be any better off when it ends.
I am a near millennial and I don't like the idea of living in Austin, SF, Or Seattle. I used to though for sure and I even moved to Portland for a little bit, but guess what happened, I grew up and realized places like this were oversaturated and I ended up wanted to return to Florida as crazy as it sounds. I've been out of work awhile and I just came with some saved money back here. I also came back because of economic reasons due to the fact I found that out west, just to get a regular stable job, you're competing with someone more educated like all the time and couple that with the cost of living, its a horror show. I'd have to live with my parents rent free there to get by. While FL is no picnic, the demographics and economic situation does suit me better, even if I need some assistance.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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"A bag of heroin that would cost $5 in a big city can sell for as much as $30 in Rutland, Vt." People in Rutland have $30? Not when I lived there they didn't, at least not the majority of them. It's one of those run down mill towns with a bar on the corner and the local social worker moonlights as a junky. The local radio station plays a desperately upbeat brand of cheesy pop music, almost bordering on Christian rock. It's enough to make you throw up in your mouth a little.

Vermont's had a drug problem for decades, but it has gotten worse in recent years. It used to be mostly just pot heads coasting through life. But in recent years, crack seems to have made its way there into the hands of many of the youths. It's sad really.
I know what you mean. I rode through Vermont a long time ago and they didn't have a damn thing on their radio out there. Nothing that even left wing influenced.. It was Christian and cheesy pop music just like you said. No hard rock or anything and if you like rap theres none of that either. For a state that likes to tout progressiveness and is the home of Bernie Sanders, it doesn't offer a lot does it? lol. I guess if you're rich or somewhat independently wealthy and hate people its the perfect place. Their big city Burlington I know is geared toward university kids so again I wouldn't like that too much. New Hampshire is my pick if we're talking New England states with a quality of life. Very median income and feels like middle America still and millenials wont be coming there in droves either.
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Old 10-01-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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I know what you mean. I rode through Vermont a long time ago and they didn't have a damn thing on their radio out there. Nothing that even left wing influenced.. It was Christian and cheesy pop music just like you said. No hard rock or anything and if you like rap theres none of that either. For a state that likes to tout progressiveness and is the home of Bernie Sanders, it doesn't offer a lot does it? lol. I guess if you're rich or somewhat independently wealthy and hate people its the perfect place. Their big city Burlington I know is geared toward university kids so again I wouldn't like that too much. New Hampshire is my pick if we're talking New England states with a quality of life. Very median income and feels like middle America still and millenials wont be coming there in droves either.
Most wealthy people that I know of tend to live around Manchester and Dorset. Some have multiple homes, not to rent or resell, but in which to live in different times of year depending on their mood. The local radio station, WEQX, tends to label itself as alternative rock, but the selections are mostly the one bad song on an otherwise great album or completely unheard of bands that have yet to solidify their musical identity or sell an album.

Though Vermont has a few high tech companies like IBM and GE and some lesser known, good jobs are hard to get unless you know someone on the inside. Having a degree of any level does not increase your chances, it just means you won't have to start on the ground floor if you get in. Otherwise you could find yourself working in the local mill as the shipping clerk that has to go in and shoot the rats at the start of his shift every morning or out on a wood lot cutting, splitting, and stacking firewood with "toothless Jim" while that degree hangs on the wall at home.
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