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Old 04-21-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Most major east coast cities are crawling with graduates of the eight Ivy League schools plus schools like Duke. Miami seems to be different in this regard. While I'm not an expert on Miami, it didn't seem like tons of Ivy League or Duke alumni lived there.

My questions: Does Miami have a huge Ivy League presence?

If so, which schools are most well represented?
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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Well no, FL is not famous for Ivy League types. Maybe over on Palm Beach the most. Most of those people or people from the social register were traditionally snowbirds anyway. If you met George Bush 43 would you really guess he attended Ivy League? No.

My guess is you'd find the majority in the medical community. You have some prominent medical like Mayo Clinic Jacksonville, with Ivy grads affiliated. Miami has a well respected Miami Children's Hospital - probably the same thing.

But that doesn't mean you find an Ivy League "atmosphere" if that's what you mean. And actually that's sort of fading out now, too since their entry requirements are totally different now and not as WASP.

U of Miami, formerly a party school, has improved academically but not near the level of Ivy League or the other schools like MIT with even more stringent admissions requirements. So it's logical that many of the students HERE would remain here and Ivy League grads really have no reason to "move here" in any "high profile" ways.

I mean, why would say, an Ivy League grad who wants to be a teacher come to FL instead of staying in their "own" environment IF they could? More country club environment, more free government money, more elitist attitudes etc.

Plus Miami is more of an international population so there's that.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Yea but the University of Miami will kick those Whiffenpoofers butts in football. Hail Yale !!!!
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Yea but the University of Miami will kick those Whiffenpoofers butts in football. Hail Yale !!!!
I didn't even know that was a thing so yay Miami.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Miami is a little different than most east coast cities. It not only encompasses such things as high fashion but superior outdoor lifestyle and is heavily influenced by Spanish and South American (family style) culture. Starting salaries may not be as high as some other cities initially but there are decent jobs if you choose Miami. There is a large contingent of college educated young people who are heavily involved in community affairs and betterment. It's more an international type city than most in the US.
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Old 04-22-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Over half of Miami's population was born overseas, therefore half the population did not even have the opportunity or even the access to attend an ivy in the US, so there's that....
Culturally, Miami is very much an immigrant city. Traditionally, immigrant familes tend to be more traditional in their views and either the children of immigrants end up going to FIU/UM/Miami dade College because it's "close to home"...God forbid Abuela does not get to see the grandkids... Also, culturally speaking, there is not as much of a push for Miami kids to get into these highly competitive, often ultra-liberal ivy league schools because to a large swath of the demographics in Miami--- it's just not a priority. Again, why go out-of-state when they've got FIU and UM? I dont think a lot of people understand the significance of an ivy-league school education...
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Old 04-23-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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Most major east coast cities are crawling with graduates of the eight Ivy League schools plus schools like Duke. Miami seems to be different in this regard. While I'm not an expert on Miami, it didn't seem like tons of Ivy League or Duke alumni lived there.
Ivy League graduates (and grads of most prestigious colleges) wouldn't touch post-graduate career aspirations in Florida with a ten foot pole as it's kind of seen as a place where one goes mid-career to wind down, retire or for those who can't hack it career-wise elsewhere. Florida isn't the kind of place where fast-trackers go to get ahead and socially/culturally it's lagging behind the usual suspects (NYC, Boston, DC, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, Denver, Austin, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta and others) in terms of a place where well-educated people like to live.
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Old 04-23-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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This should have been placed on the Miami Forum.
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Old 04-23-2016, 06:33 PM
 
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Ivy League graduates (and grads of most prestigious colleges) wouldn't touch post-graduate career aspirations in Florida with a ten foot pole as it's kind of seen as a place where one goes mid-career to wind down, retire or for those who can't hack it career-wise elsewhere. Florida isn't the kind of place where fast-trackers go to get ahead and socially/culturally it's lagging behind the usual suspects (NYC, Boston, DC, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, SF, LA, Denver, Austin, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta and others) in terms of a place where well-educated people like to live.
They like to live in Miami or FL once they make their money, and get tired of the cities you mention.
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Old 04-24-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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Over half of Miami's population was born overseas, therefore half the population did not even have the opportunity or even the access to attend an ivy in the US, so there's that....
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Very silly statement. Most elite universities these days will run 10-20% international students. If you're a very promising student from Uruguay or Peru and have enough English language chops to take care of TOEFL requirements, a good college admissions office loves to add you to their 'students from over 125 countries' list they use to describe student diversity.

And despite many things that make the process hard, students from around the world still massively flock to America's major universities for both undergraduate and graduate studies.
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