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Old 06-16-2016, 07:11 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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They shouldn't have to drag it when the signs clearly state no swimming. That means stay out of the friggin water it's not safe. Even your feet. Do we need to hold everyone's hand in this country? What part of no swimming is hard to understand. I mean I don't go to Africa think it's ok to pet a baby lion just cause I can't see the mom. I'm having a real hard time with pity lately over all this stupidity. Honestly. Just because they're the "happiest place on earth" doesn't mean they control everything down to the weather. Australia had a similar situation a few weeks back and the govt release a statement saying "you can't legislate stupidity... It was avoidable" .. I have to side with that statement on this situation

Oh and they need to stop calling them "beaches" as I've seen in some articles. There are two types of beaches in Florida. Gulf Beaches and Atlantic beaches. Anything else is a lake, lagoon,swamp, spring etc. Anything else harbors predators. I get they call every body of water up north a beach (confused the hell out of me in NH when they said meet at the beach and it was a lake) but this is also not helping. Lakes are not swimable down here , ever.
Have you ever been to or seen pictures of those "beaches" next to those lakes and lagoons? They're complete with sand, beach chairs, and gazebos. If they aren't real beaches Disney is sure working to make sure they LOOK like beaches.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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I was referring to River Country when it was open.
Did they check for gators every morning before the park opened?
Do any of the water type parks check daily for gators before letting people in the water?
Yes, they actually check every park for gators and other wildlife before parks open. Even saw a picture of a gator inside a bathroom at the MK that had to be removed before park opened. Sometimes CMs have had to sort of herd wildlife even when the parks are open till the wildlife crew can get there to remove it. This is Florida, we keep ours eyes open. Just like if you walk a trail in the Smoky Mountains or Rockies you watch for signs of bears. You probably won't see one, but it could happen.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Have you ever been to or seen pictures of those "beaches" next to those lakes and lagoons? They're complete with sand, beach chairs, and gazebos. If they aren't real beaches Disney is sure working to make sure they LOOK like beaches.
They are in deep doo-doo civil suit wise. If I was a juror, and I'm of the belief that there are way too many lawsuits in our country. I agree with your post.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Jurors tend to side with the corporations. I don't see these people winning.

I wouldn't side with them unless there was proof of negligence on Disney's side. For example if there was proof that Disney was fully aware that this lake was infested with alligators and they didn't place the alligator signs because they thought they could lose business.

In cases of negligence you only have to be partially responsible. Both parties can be at fault the parents and Disney.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Davie, FL
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Jurors tend to side with the corporations. I don't see these people winning.

I wouldn't side with them unless there was proof of negligence on Disney's side. For example if there was proof that Disney was fully aware that this lake was infested with alligators and they didn't place the alligator signs because they thought they could lose business.

In cases of negligence you only have to be partially responsible. Both parties can be at fault the parents and Disney.

Disney would never want this to go to a jury trial. They would have to basically say "The safety of our guests and their little children ain't our problem", how else do you argue this on behalf of Disney in a courtroom? -- it would a PR disaster. For Disney, this needs to disappear, fast.

Considering all the stories of Disney employees doing nothing when aggressive gators are reported, if not feeding the alligators themselves (I have a personal friend who claimed exactly this, first hand).... I don't think showing negligence is far fetched.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Jurors tend to side with the corporations. I don't see these people winning.

I wouldn't side with them unless there was proof of negligence on Disney's side. For example if there was proof that Disney was fully aware that this lake was infested with alligators and they didn't place the alligator signs because they thought they could lose business.

In cases of negligence you only have to be partially responsible. Both parties can be at fault the parents and Disney.

I'm sure this will never make it to court. Whether or not the Disney enterprises accept blame for this horrible incident, they don't want the bad publicity a trial would bring ( and in the parents' shoes I sure would not want to have to relive those last hours/minutes of their little boy's life either). I'm sure they will settle for whatever it takes out of court, so they can make the incident disappear and move on making money.
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Disney would never want this to go to a jury trial it would a PR disaster. For Disney, this needs to disappear, fast.
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I'm sure this will never make it to court. I'm sure they will settle for whatever it takes out of court, so they can make the incident disappear and move on making money.
Most likely unless the family's lawyers get greedy.
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Disney slaughtering all alligators due to negligence of parents!! Why would these parents let their 2 year old into the lagoon clearly posted with "No Swimming!" signs?
If there was negligence it wasn't on the part of the parents. I believe that resort has movie night right on the man made beach of that lagoon. The kid was wading along the edge of the water a few inches deep after the movie ended. I can understand why people not from the deep south wouldn't expect a a gator to snatch their kid at a man made resort lake. But Disney must have known the potential. Disney is going to get reamed on this one.

Oh, and walking the edge of the white sand beach with your feet in the water is not swimming.

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Old 06-18-2016, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Rope fence goes up......
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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One would think they would at least put up a tasteful black wrought iron fence. It would both look good and keep the guest safe. Disney seriously needs to consider a change in management at these resorts. First for endangering their guest and then for thinking this rope is the right solution.
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