[NJ Chutzpah]

Is south florida more cuban or transplanted northerners?

[compelled to reply]

Both or neither...

Palm Beach- Transplanted northerners. Notable Haitian and Central American or Mexican minority (underclass). Some Native Floridians.
Broward- Caribbean/West Indian (mostly Black), African American (as in Native born), transplants from all over (predominately northerners), or South American (particularly Colombia and Venezuela). A few Cuban. Small but sizable Native Floridian population. Actually very mixed, no group dominating.
Dade- Mostly South American, large Cuban presence, some Caribbean presence. Many Nicaraguans.

And then you have SW Florida, which you might as well just annex to Ohio (mostly Midwestern transplants).

So basically, neither or both.

[JohnVosilla]

Originally Posted by NJ Chutzpah

Is south florida more cuban or transplanted northerners?

SE Florida trend appears to be more transplants from points to the south these days with Cuban a very small part of the influx. Cuban influx to Dade County was primarily 20-50 years ago.. The big wave from the NE part of the USA to Broward and Palm Beach peaked perhaps 10-15 years ago and seems to barely keep up with the outflow these days..

[chisoxfan]

Even in the real boom times, southeast Florida has never really seemed like a hot spot for Midwesterners. The bulk of the transplants were from New York City and New Jersey, with significant migration also from Boston, Philly, Buffalo and Pittsburgh. The older Midwesterners headed either to Arizona or Florida's west coast (they're still flocking to Arizona and are starting to put a considerable strain on that state's resources), while younger Midwesterners opted for Dallas-Fort Worth (where I lived briefly in the '80s), Denver and Southern California.

I remember looking through the directory printed for my 30-year reunion at our suburban Chicago high school last year and taking note of the fact that there was only one other member of our class besides me (out of 700 students) who wound up in South Florida. Probably two dozen or so have landed in Dallas.

[Robbied]

boy times have changed..we have a huge mix now..many Haitians, Cubans, West Broward has many Venezualens, my daughter in law and her family are from Equador and they have a large family. We have a number of Columbians here. You will find people many of them from Jamaica as well as Canada.

We are a blend and a mix, New Yorkers, New Jersey, Chgo, Ohio...etc..

[vpcats]

I'm seeing more South and Central Americans than Cuban. There are the Cubans who have been here for the last 20 -50 years or the recent arrivals, who for the most part are relatives of those long time cubans. I would say the bulk of the newer arrivals are neither Cuban nor northeast or midwest transplants. Try North Carolina for that, and for Cubans moving out of Florida.

[nohope]

more cuban

[compelled to reply]

Originally Posted by nohope

more cuban

No offense but once again, what in the world are you talking about? //mod deleted//

* Jamaica (15%)
* Haiti (12%)
* Cuba (8%)
* Colombia (8%)
* Canada (5%)
* Brazil (4%)
* Peru (3%)

Out of the 25.3% foreign born population (which automatically renders your statement obsolete), about 27% are from Jamaica and Haiti, and at least 15% are from South America.

For people reporting one race alone, 67 percent was White; 25 percent was Black or African American; less than 0.5 percent was American Indian and Alaska Native; 3 percent was Asian; less than 0.5 percent was Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, and 4 percent was Some other race. Two percent reported Two or more races. Twenty-three percent of the people in Broward County was Hispanic. Forty-eight percent of the people in Broward County was White non-Hispanic. People of Hispanic origin may be of any race.

OK, so whites dominate (probably from somewhere else in the country) and Blacks are in second place, which is actually counter to the national average of Hispanics being second. So you have it wrong.



Broward County, Florida - Population and Housing Narrative Profile: 2006

And no, the cubans aren't undercounted because there here illegally because they get guaranteed citizenship .

Broward County, Florida detailed profile - houses, real estate, agriculture, wages, work, ancestries, and more

Miami-Dade is a different story but even there more are from South America. Palm Beach County is very non-Hispanic and there is littleCuban population there. Mostly central Americans (many whom ARE there illegally) and Haitians out of the foreign born population.

[jbravo]

Originally Posted by NJ Chutzpah

Is south florida more cuban or transplanted northerners?

________________Numbers are a %

__________________Cuban_________Hispanic of any
________________________________race or ethnicity
Miami-Dade_________28.9____________57.3
Broward_____________3.1____________16.7
Palm Beach__________2.2____________12.4




And as an interesting side note:
__________________________Hispanic/Latino non-Cuban
_______________________and not from Mexico or Puerto Rico
______________________(in other words from South America)

Miami-Dade_23.2 Broward__9.0 Palm Beach__ 5.3

Do not double count these last numbers (they are included in the "Hispanic of any race or ethnicity.")

Last year I posted a thread titled 'Miami it's not just for Cubans anymore"
But I never posted the data.

So, if you are from the West Coast or from the Mid West here's the skinny.
No mexicans to speak of, some for agriculture but very little in the cities.
At one time Cubans were a majority. This is no longer the case.

Because of immigration laws, the numbers are skewed. Cubans are generally allowed to stay legally, most others are not; therefore, the non-Cuban percentages are provably undercounted.
Comments to the effect that there is a large population of illegal Cubans are, of course, factually inaccurate. (see above if you do not get why this is so.)
Lastly, this is the 2000 census. Make the Cuban percentages lower and all other higher and that should reflect the percentages better.

[jhlcomp]

If you come to south Florida you will see a large mix and good representation from most countries of Latin America, the Caribbean, the islands, Europe, and the east coast of north America - we are a melting pot.