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Old 10-07-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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I guarantee the forecast for north florida will be the same story as the south it won't even hit directly.
Wish I had seen this yesterday, could've placed a bet.

Jax Beach:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyXD1KGj99M


^^This was two hours before the height of the surge. Already flowing four blocks inland.

Downtown St Augustine:

St. Augustine streets filled with water from Hurricane Matthew | WJAX-TV
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Are you guys mad at the governor for ordering a mandatory evacuation and saying "you will die if you don't evacuate" for a storm that was weaker than many we have in NY? And he said this after the storm showed it would not hit south florida and people were playing on the beaches and it was not even raining. He should be held accountable for that. I watched live footage all day, there were kids playing soccer and doing handstands on the beach and people surfing while the weatherman forecasted death and destruction. The weather forecasters as well should be held accountable for massively mis-predicating this storm. This is not the first hurricane they mis-predicated eithor, it's just incompetence at this point. And after they dropped the ball they did not have the guts to admit they were wrong, and kept forecasting death and destruction even as they stood on the beach with a low water level, moderate winds, and no rain and people playing behind them, even saying it was unsafe and they should leave. They said the one that hit tampa would be huge and kill people and it was nothing. Apparently the weather satellites they use are old and need to be replaced is what someone told me, they should just replace them already instead of keep screwing up.
Imagine if the order wasn't given, the storm stregnthened and moved west killing hundreds.

My guess is that you wanted to roast him either way.
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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OP, while you're sitting out the storm, you might want to open a dictionary and learn how to spell "governor" and "forecasters". It would be much more productive than spending time posting the same drivel all over the boards.
Seriously!
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Op you are mad because you didnt get hit by a cat4 hurricane?
Ask the people of Haiti how happy they are.=
Hurricane Matthew: Haiti dead reach 800 as south awaits aid - BBC News
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Old 10-07-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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use to, they would tell you to find someplace safe, then the local sherriff did not want to dsipatch to the stupid people on sailboat riding out the storm, so there started telling everybody to leave, so know you trap in 5mph traffic with no gas for 100 miles, as long as you not in their county, they dont care. After hurricane katrina, i built an concrete house, one foot thick wall. I live at elevation 83. 40 miles from the gulf. and i still hear them hollowing, you have to leave. I been in about 20 hurricanes sine 72. have never left, had never had any property damage, all the damage going be three miles from the water
If you really live in a concrete house 40 miles from the Gulf at an elevation of 83 feet, those directions to evacuate are not directed at you.
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Old 10-07-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: South Tampa, Maui, Paris
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I am a born and raised Floridian and been through countless storms, including Cat 5 Andrew, and I have to say this is the WORST FORECASTING and MEDIA HYPE-FEST of a storm I've ever seen. They couldn't get the cone/storm track right for days and days, and only got it right a few hours before the thing was 50 miles east of the Keys.

The governor said people would die and that the entire state had to prepare for a direct hit from this "killer" storm that was coming as a Cat 4 or 5 storm into Florida.

In fact, the storm never even made landfall in Florida and the damage so far has been minimal. And when I say minimal, I am saying it is in no way damage consistent with a Cat 4 or even Cat 3 storm. And the media was complicit in inciting panic over this storm.

I know "killer" storms. The only places this storm has done "killer" type damage is in the Caribbean.

At least the retailers got some stimulus.
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Old 10-07-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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^And you should be thankful for that! With all your hurricane experience, I'm surprised you'd expect perfect forecasting. I'm not a meteorologist, but I'm damn sure these people are doing the best they can in a very inexact science.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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^And you should be thankful for that! With all your hurricane experience, I'm surprised you'd expect perfect forecasting. I'm not a meteorologist, but I'm damn sure these people are doing the best they can in a very inexact science.
Storm forecasting is not an exact science. Neither for snowstorms/Nor'easters or tropical systems. Forecasts first must keep public safety in mind, then probability of an event. My only mild criticism here, an emphasize the word mild, is that perhaps the adjectives such as "most dangerous" should have been used more sparingly. And the only reason for that is so that the next time around, when the wolf is at the door, people don't ignore the hazard.

A great example of a botched forecast was for a Nor'easter that was forecast to drop 36" of snow in New York City on or about March 3, 2001. We got six inches of slushy snow mixed heavily with rain. Eveything was shut down in advance. Then that Friday we got a surprise quick hit of 4" in a little more than an hour. Because of the fast-falling nature it was disruptive, but not historic. A blown forecast in the other direction was the "Mayor Lindsay" storm of February 8, 1969. The storm was forecast to change to rain and resources were not deployed in advance.

My summation is that storms need to be taken seriously but over-hype creates a big risk of the "crying wolf" effect.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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40 miles. If that storm, which ended up traveling thousands of miles to get here, had ended up 40 miles or so further west we'd all be hurting right now.

If they made the noise they did over a borderline Cat 1 that was skirting the coast I might say it was a bit much. We were 40 miles or so from having a major disaster and some of you idiots are wondering why they made a big deal out of it?
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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The O.P. shows the idiocy of many, not erring on the side of caution. Daytona Beach and north is getting hammered. I have family there. A favorite restaurant of theirs got destroyed. And the storm surge is going to be bad in GA to SC also. Matthew stayed a little more offshore in south FL than forecasted, and those people are thankful. I guess people don't like to be bothered by mother nature.
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