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View Poll Results: How do you rate your FL community overall (crime, cost of living, wages, etc etc)?
I love it. Would never move! 14 34.15%
Not so good, it's been going downhill latelly. 8 19.51%
Horrible. It is infested with crime. 2 4.88%
My neighbor is a crack dealer who is in the USA illegally. 5 12.20%
Can it POSSIBLY get any worse?!? 6 14.63%
Losing my home to high homeowner's insurance/high property taxes. 6 14.63%
I am leaving FL, I am tired of absurd cost and low wages. 13 31.71%
My commute to work is very short and my 'hood AND sourrounding areas are safe and clean. 2 4.88%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-30-2006, 12:44 PM
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This has got to be the best post I've read! I'm in Florida (Tampa) for 4 years and feel that our society is going to the crapper fast...We're getting out and hoping only the people with high moral values and a long employment history follow us!

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Old 11-30-2006, 12:48 PM
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42 murders in Orlando?

That's nothing. Come check out near my hood.....Phildelphia. As of 8/9/06, we had 239 murders for the year. And, I live in New Jersey and we have the highest real estate taxes in the whole country, with beaches that aren't as nice, I might add.

The grass is always greener on the other side. If you don't like it there in Florida, fine. Leave.
Philly is a LOT bigger than Orlando. We have a very high per capita crime rate. Murders are not all that is bad. The real issue in Orlando is carjackings and home invasions. It is getting to be too much.

They are giving these carjackers 20 - 30 years all the time, but they still keep on coming. Maybe if we sealed and secured the southern US-Mexico border, the crime numbers would go down. When will Americans learn?

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This has got to be the best post I've read! I'm in Florida (Tampa) for 4 years and feel that our society is going to the crapper fast...We're getting out and hoping only the people with high moral values and a long employment history follow us!
Helix: I have friends who lived in Tampa and I used to drive down to Bush gardens a lot. Tampa was cute before.... but Tampa has really declined too (sadly).

I am moving early next year. Cannot afford to keep living in FL. It is too dangerous, even in the expensive Metro West area of Orlando where I grew up. My wife lived in an apt at Hawthorne Groves (paid $1,100 a month in rent for a 1/1) and someone was murdered and apts burglarized back in Sept. 2006.

Good luck on your move.

Chris

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:17 PM
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Why would you say "hope we can stay in Florida"? Are you not able to afford the rising costs?
The softening market took my husband's job with it (he worked for a builder.)
We hope we can stay but we gotta go where the work is.

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:27 PM
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The softening market took my husband's job with it (he worked for a builder.)
We hope we can stay but we gotta go where the work is.
Sorry to hear. That sucks.

We are moving due to rising costs and we want a slower pace of live and affordable housing.

Best luck to you guys!!

Chris

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Old 11-30-2006, 04:09 PM
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BRAVO, BRAVO!!!! for Chris!

I agree everything you said here. I lived in FL for 20 years and good grief, everything changed. We moved out of FL earlier this year and we are so much happier with our new home state - beautiful North Carolina! We got a bigger house (brand-new, 2000 sq ft, for under $158k), low taxes, low insurance rate, got higher salary, beautiful weather, great school, and more.

We'll never look back to FL again, except for Disney, of course!

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Old 11-30-2006, 04:48 PM
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Real Estate Agents lying? What are you going to tell me next, that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west? (just being sarcastic, no offense). RE agents are some of the most prolific liars I have ever met, right up there with mortgage brokers (I am in the industry and I know what I'm talking about).

I've been in the Orlando area since 1983. Yes, it has changed immensely, but I knew that coming in. The murder and crime rap is misleading, as most of that happens in centralized locations, specificallly west of downtown. Metrowest sees a lot of it because it is right across Kirkman road from some of the most economically deprived neighborhoods in all of Central Florida. So when you have hopelessness pressed up against conspicuous wealth, yeah, your going to have your problems. But unless you are involved in the drug trade, you pretty much do not have to worry about getting murdered. Just stay clear of Mercy Drive and Ivey Lane.

Orlando ain't cheap anymore, and it's not a small town/small city anymore. It's big city, and if big city ain't your thang, there are plenty of other places in Florida you can go. Gainesville is pretty cool, and east of there (Melrose, Hawthorne, Keystone, etc) hasn't grown much in the past 30 years or so.

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Old 11-30-2006, 05:05 PM
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Migrant workers are not the issue. The issue here is the criminal "migrant workers". Orlando has gone downhill on safety, friendliness, and quality of life. It was gone way up in violent crime, drugs, cost of living, and traffic.

The days of the affordable, clean, safe Orlando are gone. Middle class is being driven out and soon it will be the very rich and the very poor in FL.
Orlando is a victim of the amusement parks and fast life. Got too big and now is paying the pains of a metro city that depends on people visiting on a daily basis.. Why do people visit Orlando? Is not to go to the movies...

With nearly 113,000 hotel rooms, Orlando offers incredible lodging options, from budget and moderately priced hotels, all-suite properties and bed and breakfast inns to themed resorts and lavish suites. For those who want to “rough it” in Orlando, extensive motor home, tent camping and cabin options abound.

Look at the following:

Visitors --- Percent of Total --- Most Recent--- Value--- Change
Total Visitors

100.0% --- July-September--- 20.7 million*=== -2.4%

Air Visitors

42.6%---- July-September---- 11.2 million* ==== -2.2%

Non-Air Visitors

57.4%--- July-September---- 11.8 million* === -2.6

The numbers don't lie. We are getting all type of folks and they also create crime.

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Old 11-30-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default real estate agents on the whole

Hi, i hate real estate agents they are the biggest liars. I am trying to move off Long Island. I listed my house with a real estate agent who did nothing but lie. The has was only advertised once, she brought absolutely no one to see my house, and kept making excuses that no one was calling in my price range, which i found hard to believe because I was in the 350,000 range and my taxes are only 5,000 a year. I am in a nice cul de sac location and I put 75,000 dollars into this house in six years. Now, the same house as mine is listed with another real estate for more money and she has had 3 offers in a week. and the house is not as nice as mine. she has not done the updates. My husband had multiple job offers and had to turn them all down because of this jerk of a real estate person. So, people be aware they are the worst.

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Old 11-30-2006, 06:33 PM
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Folks:

This is a warning from a 10-year Florida resident: REAL ESTATE FOLKS ARE LYING ABOUT FLORIDA TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO COME AND BUY. You have been warned.

The real estate market in FL is in a slump in terms of large inventory and very low sales and the real estate agents are trying to atract suckers down here.

Please do some research and learn for yourself! Here is my ten cents on FL after 10 years (copied from my other thread):

Since FL is becoming Southern California (and we are begining to see signs of that with skyrocketing violent crime, 42 muders in Orlando this year alone (2006), high home prices, absurd insurance costs, massive traffic jams and road rage, wages that are not keeping up with cost of living), then why stay or move here?

If you are moving or staying here for the "nice weather", yeah, you will enjoy it from Early-Dec to Mid-April. Dec - April is WONDERFUL in Central FL, but the rest of the year sucks. The rest of the year is 90 - 100 degrees every day. Don't believe me, ask around. If you are from like Phoenix or south Texas, yeah, FL weather will feel like home, except it is humid as heck.

Humidity is usually no less than 90% almost every day, so you sweat like an animal. It starts off at 75 degrees around 7:30am and it goes up to the sky from there. Usually the highs are in the 90s, but with the humidity (heat index) is around 101... I have seen it go up to 110 degrees! Nights are not too bad... except the humidity keeps the temp on the upper 80s and low 90's. Oh, don't forget the rain from May - Sept, which is twice a day (usually from 10am - 11am and from 3pm-4pm). That will get annoying too... folks drive at 5 MPH when it rains... you will love it.

Interstate 4 (I-4) will be your best friend! You will spend lots and lots of time stuck in traffic on I-4. Oh and if you get hit by one of our thousands of illegal aliens with no license, no insurance, they will bolt on you, so make sure you get the guy's plate #, if you can. My wife works Personal Injury and it happens all the time. Too often... Americans are dumb and refuse to force the government to enforce Immigration laws. Corporations will love the "guest worker" amnesty. So will the illegals, who steal people's identity, rip-off welfare and overuse our public services. Not to mention the heinous crimes the illegals commit. Anyways...

I know, you say "I prefer that than to deal with the crazy heat than snow 3 months of the year". We will see about that when you begin complaining about the heat every single day and night, sweating and getting angry at people on the streets cause of the heat. Think Orlando hit #1 of America's angriest cities for no reason?

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Believe it not, but Orlando has been voted the US angriest city by Men’s Health Magazine – it’s interesting that four of the top 10 cities are all in Florida, and here’s you, thinking that Florida was full of jolly Disney characters and thrilling theme parks! Oh, the illegal aliens are great too. Nobody speaks English and they sell crack near public schools. It is lovely.

Good luck moving down here Moderator cut: cut I hope you will all enjoy it. I am out of FL March 2007! 10 years in Orlando is long enough, I am tired of it. Had a house, sold a house, rented an apt, worked, gone to Disney (twice), gone to the beach a few times... time 2 go! Thank God we are moving!

Do some serious research and see what the Florida reality is like. Do it BEFORE you move down here. Homes are very expensive, so is insurance, property taxes, and rent is outrageous. Wages are not keeping up with the cost of living. Not even close. My wife got a $3,000 raise last year, but it got sucked up by the rent increase and costs of renter's insurance. Car insurance went up too (no accidents and no tickets in last 6 years - what gives?). If you think it is the sugar-coated Disney and International Drive dream is the reality in Central Florida, you will wake up on day to regret it.

If you like all this crap, Florida, here you come and here I leave! WHOOOOHOOOO!

Chris
you are so right, been here 8 years, even the snow seems mighty nice. Beware, anyone now wishing to move to this state? hoi?
car insurance? and property taxes. also florida pays a mighty high wage, 7.00, if you are lucky.

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Old 11-30-2006, 06:35 PM
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BRAVO, BRAVO!!!! for Chris!

I agree everything you said here. I lived in FL for 20 years and good grief, everything changed. We moved out of FL earlier this year and we are so much happier with our new home state - beautiful North Carolina! We got a bigger house (brand-new, 2000 sq ft, for under $158k), low taxes, low insurance rate, got higher salary, beautiful weather, great school, and more.

We'll never look back to FL again, except for Disney, of course!
WOW!! I am talking to the wife, maybe we should check out NC! My stepdad loves it out there and he is moving there from Texas in March.

Where do you live in NC, if I may ask??

Thanks!

Chris!

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