[Lilybeans]

Originally Posted by flburgos

i don't think an across the board ban is ever going to happen.but if it was possible,i'm all for it there is just to much violence in this world right now.even those stupid xbox,playstation games are all about violence our children are being exposed to this garbage at too young of an age.they should be banned and the parents buying mature games for 10 yr olds should be locked up for 30 days every time they do so.it's just everywhere and there is not much you can do but watch your kids and yourself and hope for the best.

OK, fair enough. I do agree with you about violent games and movies and TV shows.

[Beenaroundabit]

a gun in a home is dangerous no matter where you put it and no one should own a gun unless your a cop,military,feds.

Apparently you've never served in the military, because the vast majority of the people there have never "owned" a gun, nor carried one outisde of 1) a combat environment; 2) closely-controlled, supervised circumstances, such as a range or live-fire exercise; or 3) other special circumstances like natural disasters, riots, etc. Point being that military members do not, by practice, mingle with the civilian populace while armed, nor do all receive background investigations that are all that thorough, so allowing them to own guns based on the criteria of military membership, alone, is nonsensical.

And that's just the most obvious hole in your logic...

A gun is a tool and nothing more. It can be dangerous or not, just like a knife, screwdriver, nail file, hammer, etc. - or maybe only cooks should have knives? Or only carpenters should have hammers? See where I'm going with this? Someone can kill you just as easily with any number of implements in your home as they can with a gun, and the kicker is that none of these implements are regulated in any way, require licensing, or necessitate training or specialized experience to be able to use.

Personally, I think a far better "weapon" is someone's brain; situational awareness, mental preparation, self-discipline, and just plain old common sense. Unfortunately, many people skip that and jump right to buying a gun because they think it's an automatic, end-all solution to any potential confrontation. Of course, many others buy them only as tools, period, relying on their brains first and foremost, which is how it should be. But regardless of reason, buying, owning, or carrying a gun is everyone's right according to the law.

If you don't like guns and don't want to own one, that's your right, but it might be wise to learn a little bit more about them - and maybe about confrontations or human nature in general - before you come to the conclusion that taking away everyone else right (outside of cops, et al) is some kind of plausible solution to the "danger" posed by guns.

[Strel]

Originally Posted by Lilybeans

Hardly giving out legal advice. And the law is clear on having a gun in a car without a CCW.

I'm not saying you are wrong...but that's a blurry line you are walking.

I wouldn't wan't someone to get arrested based on something they read here. All laws have exceptions, and anyone that simply reads a statute and thinks they know the law is playing a dangerous game.

Statutes are not the whole of the law. I would be very careful about opining on this without checking the AGO opinions, the case law interpreting the statute, etc. It's a lot more complicated than just reading the statute.

Just be careful is all I'm saying....

[flburgos]

Originally Posted by Lilybeans

Even without a permit, anyone can have a gun in their car.

even without a permit,anyone can have a gun in their car?anyone involved in passing that law should be you know what.

[flburgos]

[quote=Beenaroundabit;3201193]Apparently you've never served in the military, because the vast majority of the people there have never "owned" a gun, nor carried one outisde of 1) a combat environment; 2) closely-controlled, supervised circumstances, such as a range or live-fire exercise; or 3) other special circumstances like natural disasters, riots, etc. Point being that military members do not, by practice, mingle with the civilian populace while armed, nor do all receive background investigations that are all that thorough, so allowing them to own guns based on the criteria of military membership, alone, is nonsensical.

And that's just the most obvious hole in your logic...

A gun is a tool and nothing more. It can be dangerous or not, just like a knife, screwdriver, nail file, hammer, etc. - or maybe only cooks should have knives? Or only carpenters should have hammers? See where I'm going with this? Someone can kill you just as easily with any number of implements in your home as they can with a gun, and the kicker is that none of these implements are regulated in any way, require licensing, or necessitate training or specialized experience to be able to use.

Personally, I think a far better "weapon" is someone's brain; situational awareness, mental preparation, self-discipline, and just plain old common sense. Unfortunately, many people skip that and jump right to buying a gun because they think it's an automatic, end-all solution to any potential confrontation. Of course, many others buy them only as tools, period, relying on their brains first and foremost, which is how it should be. But regardless of reason, buying, owning, or carrying a gun is everyone's right according to the law.

If you don't like guns and don't want to own one, that's your right, but it might be wise to learn a little bit more about them - and maybe about confrontations or human nature in general - before you come to the conclusion that taking away everyone else right (outside of cops, et al)take them away nobody needs a gun.most people that have a gun have a chip on their shoulder anyway like people are supposed to be scared.i've also seen innocent children shot in their homes from stupid guns laying around the house.the right to have a gun was given and it can easily be taken away.hunters should be rented guns at the hunting sites and returned when they are done they don't have any business having a gun either.a gun is not a toy like some people seem to think.

[sunrico90]

OP I thought it would be a good idea to post a link to the government website that speaks about the gun laws of the great state of Florida.

Please, if you decide to purchase a weapon, do so responsibly, store it so that children or someone who does not KNOW how to handle a firearm can not get a hold of it.

Educate yourself about the laws AND please if you carry your weapon on you, get a license to do so.

If we, the law abiding members of society abide by the laws set down by the state, we will give less reason to people who are against private people owning guns.

The first way to protect yourself is to educate yourself.

Concealed Weapons or Firearm Program - Division of Licensing, DOACS

Lets discuss the issue. Criticizing the opinions is not allowed, first and final warning. I will edit the post that don't relate to the OP.

Thank you.

[Lilybeans]

Originally Posted by Strel

I'm not saying you are wrong...but that's a blurry line you are walking.

I wouldn't wan't someone to get arrested based on something they read here. All laws have exceptions, and anyone that simply reads a statute and thinks they know the law is playing a dangerous game.

Statutes are not the whole of the law. I would be very careful about opining on this without checking the AGO opinions, the case law interpreting the statute, etc. It's a lot more complicated than just reading the statute.

Just be careful is all I'm saying....

Actually, in this case, the statute is clear. If you follow the statute you can carry a gun in your car. It's easy to read. There is no requirement that you have a permit in order to do so.

Case law is clear on this as well. There is no blurry line. Are you a lawyer?

[Love2dive]

Originally Posted by heydade

I do ding-dong and that's what they taught us in the course. You cannot carry a concealed firearm in a NUISANCE area. Go back to school.

So by your logic if you live in a crime ridden area you cant have CCW. the law says nuisance are, that does not mean high crime area, it means a bar, night club, etc. read the Florida Statute 790.06.

[heydade]

Originally Posted by Love2dive

So by your logic if you live in a crime ridden area you cant have CCW. the law says nuisance are, that does not mean high crime area, it means a bar, night club, etc. read the Florida Statute 790.06.

I said NUISANCE area.....not crime ridden area. Your are misinterpreting what I meant. But it now seems you agree with me.

[Lilybeans]

Originally Posted by heydade

I said NUISANCE area.....not crime ridden area. Your are misinterpreting what I meant. But it now seems you agree with me.

There isn't a nusiance "area."