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Old 09-16-2017, 09:18 PM
 
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Please follow your second link and read the title of the article again, paying particular attention to the fifth word. Now go to your first link and while reading it note all the similar speculative terms. Next realize that the earth is 4 1/2 billion years old and the twenty five years referenced or even the hundred years since the industrial revolution is statistically insignificant.

There have been at least five major ice ages on earth and, in fact, we are currently within an ice age, simply within a normal warm interglacial period and have been for 11,000 years. What goes up, must come down; no need to panic.
Doesn't mean humans can't effect natural phenomena.

You think you're smarter than 97% climate scientists or noaa/nasa? You may think you are, but I sure don't
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:47 PM
 
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Doesn't mean humans can't effect natural phenomena.

You think you're smarter than 97% climate scientists or noaa/nasa? You may think you are, but I sure don't
Do you think your opinion matters to me or anyone or anything else that has inhabited this planet for the past 4,540,000,000 years? Those scientists, on the other hand, are careful not to use the type of certainty in phraseology that you have so I do believe they are smarter than you.
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Old 09-17-2017, 05:58 AM
 
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Do you think your opinion matters to me or anyone or anything else that has inhabited this planet for the past 4,540,000,000 years? Those scientists, on the other hand, are careful not to use the type of certainty in phraseology that you have so I do believe they are smarter than you.
Sounds like you've never read what those scientists have said.

Go educate yourself https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
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Old 09-17-2017, 06:04 AM
 
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Now, how do we solve a problem like Maria?
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:58 AM
 
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Now, how do we solve a problem like Maria?
TV just said following Irma's path.....don't take those shutters down. Check the generator and get it fixed or serviced. Make sure you have some good batteries. Don't refill the freezer. Purchase a room air conditioner? Get a radio if you did not have one for Irma.

All the debris from Irma left at the road for garbage to pick up could be a huge problem when it starts flying in the wind.
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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TV just said following Irma's path.....don't take those shutters down. Check the generator and get it fixed or serviced. Make sure you have some good batteries. Don't refill the freezer. Purchase a room air conditioner? Get a radio if you did not have one for Irma.

All the debris from Irma left at the road for garbage to pick up could be a huge problem when it starts flying in the wind.
Yeah, I hesitate to put my patio furniture, pots etc back outside.

Sure is crowded in the house but hate doing it again!
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Old 09-17-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Sounds like you've never read what those scientists have said.

Go educate yourself https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Feel free to read your linked passages for content. Note that they invariably refer to the past 50-60 years not long term problems or solutions nor are they based on empirical data collected for even a few hundred years. Feel free to disregard all notions of cyclical change in your effort at hysteria and doomsday predictions. The sky may be falling, but not tomorrow. We're probably good for another ten billion years.
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:11 PM
 
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94-year-old sues Florida nursing home where 8 residents died in wake of Hurricane Irma - ABC News
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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Feel free to read your linked passages for content. Note that they invariably refer to the past 50-60 years not long term problems or solutions nor are they based on empirical data collected for even a few hundred years. Feel free to disregard all notions of cyclical change in your effort at hysteria and doomsday predictions. The sky may be falling, but not tomorrow. We're probably good for another ten billion years.
Feel free to ignore all of the data out there regarding sea level rise and melting of the polar ice sheets. Something tells me you already are
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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Feel free to ignore all of the data out there regarding sea level rise and melting of the polar ice sheets. Something tells me you already are
The polar ice sheets have melted many times before and they will refreeze and melt many times again. 21,000 years ago the place I now sit was covered by a glacier and it's nowhere near the poles - I don't let it concern me; the same thing has happened hundreds of times. Ice caps melt, oceans freeze, glaciers form, they melt, we get worldwide tropical conditions and the cycle continues to repeat itself. Ocean levels rise and they fall. There is nothing unique about it, that's what the data shows; what are you going to do about it? Other than get hysterical, that is? You're certainly not going to change it.
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