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Old 11-19-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Marv95 also said: "Rs nationwide have a messaging issue, on top of dealing with fraud(which wouldn't matter if they ran up the score). They obviously have the better policies but they have trouble explaining why their policies benefit Americans."

I agree again, but here's my take on the messaging issue:

-Dem's control ~80% of the media, and those media outlets will parrott whatever the Dem leadership tells them to. Rush Limbaugh constantly prooves this with his montages where he'll play 20+ different mainstream media people parrotting terms such as "count all the votes" (even though that is illegal to do, and they only say that when they are behind, not when they are ahead).

-No matter how well R's articulate the benefits of their policies, when 80% of the media will not air their words, it's an uphill battle to reach American voters. It's censorship. The Dems are not watching Fox News, or listening to conservative talk radio, or going to Trump rally's. I would attack this legally as being a form of censorship. When the mainstream media's coverage of Trump is 95+% negative, that must be addressed legally...if there is a legal way to do so, I'm not a Constitutional Lawyer. I get freedom of speech and freedom of the press, but is this legal?

-Most Americans agree that Republicans are superior to Democrats on the economy. However, it's the social issues that are the roadblock for R's. That is where the Republican policy & messaging/articulation fails. Republicans need to select a few social issues that they can moderate their stance on, and then articulate those moves to the middle more clearly to show a willingness to compromise. Tie those concessions to specific compromises they seek from Dems. If the Dems won't meet in the middle, Trump should use the media like Regan did to say "you see, we are trying to compromise, and Dems aren't"..."The Dems do not want progress...they are inflexible" This is the messaging strategy that is a proven winner.

 
Old 11-19-2018, 06:33 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I read that she is quitting. Rick had 8 years to get rid of her, why didn't he? (I'm too lazy to google to see if this is an elected position.)

Speaking of elections, how does Rick keep getting elected after his company oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in U.S. history? Yea, I know it was 20 years ago, but still!
It's a mystery, for sure, but with all accusations of minority voter "discrimination and disinfranchisement" by the Democrats with every attempt to ensure that only registered, IDed citizens vote in elections stymied by same, maybe Rick Scott felt he had to pick his battles. When you think about it, I guess the Supervisor of Elections position is not really all that visible between elections, and he'd have had quite a battle on his hands had he chosen to go after Ms. Snipes.

The Supervisor of Elections is an elected position, and Ms ( actually Dr., she has a doctorate in Education or Administration, something like that), Snipes kept being reelected. I read that she's decided to retire, good choice as I see it, especially as she's 75 yrs old!!!!! I can imagine the stress, hassles and havoc with this recount and other messes of this election would be enough to make anyone want to throw in the towel, but at her age IMO she'd be crazy to want to be involved in any of this mess in the future.

I had to wonder myself at Scotts being elected in 2010, with the Medicare fraud charges on the part of the company he headed in neon lights all over him. I didn't like him either, OR his former company, was torn about voting for him or for his Dem opponent, Alex Sink. But at that time, I think I was appalled at the way Obamacare had been ramrodded through Congress, the lies and deceptions that accompanied it, and politics as usual in the Obama administration, so I didn't think we needed a Democrat governor or another Obama cheerleader. So I held my nose and voted for Scott, and guess I wasn't the only who did, since he won.

And his re-election in 2014, I guess I felt his merits outweighed his warts. That's about it in a nutshell.
 
Old 11-19-2018, 08:03 AM
 
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With all that education and experience Dr. Snipes has, she was finally exposed as being totally incompetent (as were those who voted for her repeatedly).

This is why having a Doctorate degree doesn't impress me. If all of your experience is working in government, that doesnt impress me either. There's very little accountability in government. This is how she was able to stick around for so long.

I voted for Scott too, but it was because he was the least worst of the 2 left standing which happens a lot.
 
Old 11-19-2018, 10:42 AM
 
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Well I'm not crazy about Rick Scott, but Bill Nelson was not a solid dewd for Florida. He was what is known as a bluedog democrat. Or blue dogsh*t, I should say. Too conservative to bring Florida the changes it needs.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 05:38 AM
 
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Well I'm not crazy about Rick Scott, but Bill Nelson was not a solid dewd for Florida. He was what is known as a bluedog democrat. Or blue dogsh*t, I should say. Too conservative to bring Florida the changes it needs.
Better than a trump "rubber stamp"
 
Old 11-21-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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blue wave? lol ... Blue hairs in Florida will never vote Democratic....you'll need to import more trash there for that to happen.
Or kick out the trailer trash
 
Old 11-21-2018, 05:40 AM
 
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That is now up to the Dem controlled Congress. Stay tuned.
Which will hopefully try to clear up all the red ink and trillion dollar deficits that trump has signed into law
 
Old 11-21-2018, 10:13 AM
 
Location: FL
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Well I'm not crazy about Rick Scott, but Bill Nelson was not a solid dewd for Florida. He was what is known as a bluedog democrat. Or blue dogsh*t, I should say. Too conservative to bring Florida the changes it needs.
Nelson is wayyy wayyy better than Welfare Pimp Scott by a thousands miles.
 
Old 11-21-2018, 11:33 AM
 
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This thread has run its course. The recounts are over.
 
Old 11-23-2018, 01:21 AM
Yac
 
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Okay. This thread is no longer local politics. If you want to discuss the things you have been discussing the last page, you know where to go.
Closed.
Yac.
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