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Old 11-22-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Well, now that Florida has a Democrat for Agricultural Commissioner (Nikki Fried), I expect ALL the Nitrogen runoff to cease, and no more Red Tide or Green Slime. I expect that the sugar fields and livestock ranches will both be run out of the state...pronto!
Can the Agriculture Commissioner do much to eliminate nutrient pollution without the support of the governor and legislature?

As the new commissioner overseas the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, it appears likely that the impact will be greatest in gun control, a major issue in the campaign.

How Nikki Fried won the only statewide office for Democrats | Tampa Bay Times

Are you suggesting that Florida's environmental future would have been better if the Republican's "Big Sugar" candidate had won instead?

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...608-story.html
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Old 11-22-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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No excuse's for Nikki Fried...

-Fix Red Tide right now, and forever...no excuses
-Fix Green slime right now, and forever...no excuses
-Eradicate Big Ag from Florida...no excuses
-Require that home insurance providers cover "wind-driven rain"...no excuses

She ran on being able to bring diverging party's together to resolve disputes, so being surrounded by Republicans is not an acceptable excuse. Bring them together and get these things done...the clock is already ticking.
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Old 11-23-2018, 02:18 AM
 
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No excuse's for Nikki Fried...

-Fix Red Tide right now, and forever...no excuses
-Fix Green slime right now, and forever...no excuses
-Eradicate Big Ag from Florida...no excuses
-Require that home insurance providers cover "wind-driven rain"...no excuses

She ran on being able to bring diverging party's together to resolve disputes, so being surrounded by Republicans is not an acceptable excuse. Bring them together and get these things done...the clock is already ticking.
Just curious.

Can you substantiate that she claimed she could do any of these things without the support of Florida's governor and legislature?

Why don't you impose these same demands on Florida's governor and legislature, which ultimately have the power to remediate the environment?

And, despite overwhelming documentation in Florida C-D forum threads, there will be NO environmental salvation for Florida in this century unless mankind moves rapidly away from fossil fuel consumption. The scientists have warned us, the empirical evidence demonstrates the environmental calamity already underway, and yet Florida still supports man-made climate change science deniers who seem intent on destroying Florida by keeping the state rooted in ignorance and even encouraging increased fossil fuel consumption.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/...219770350.html

By the time that today's youth find their childhood playgrounds underwater, and the one-percent greeders have abandoned the state, it will be too late.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...limate-change/

Note in the above article that the U.S. Justice Department concedes that man-made climate change is real and its dire consequences will worsen over time. Will the Trump administration attempt to root out such honesty?

While over a century ago, Americans carved out large areas of natural beauty to form the world's first national parks, today America is controlled by greedy egomaniacs more interested in political power and tax havens than in science and the environmental legacy that will be left for future generations of Americans.

Florida, as it is on the frontline of the adverse effects of man-made climate change, is a political linchpin in the battle between deniers and fossil fuel industry supporters on one side, and scientists, environmentalists, and even mayors and administrators of low-lying coastal communities on the other side.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...531-story.html

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...imate-airtime/

Until Florida's citizens are told the truth about man-made climate change, and the state changes course and aggressively promotes, like several other states, a transition away from fossil fuel consumption, the odds of a major change in the U.S. national commitment and global commitment to a transition away from fossil fuel consumption is lessened.
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Old 11-26-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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I hope whatever political changes the mid-term elections have, one change I hope that doesn't occur is to Florida's environmental stewardship. Henry10 shared the article link below w/ us on another Florida topic thread. It says Florida's #1 on the environment, so kudos to our past local & state government's for these results.

Florida's not perfect, no state is, but being #1 speaks volumes about all those Floridians who came before us.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...al-environment

Now, if we can just get the states at the bottom of the list to clean up their acts; Ohio, Louisiana, & Illinois.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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Default Big Sugar faces tough political times ahead?

While Big Sugar was literally Rick Scott's sugar daddy, according to this article, things may change with DeSantis as governor.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ugar-20181126/
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:35 PM
 
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While Big Sugar was literally Rick Scott's sugar daddy, according to this article, things may change with DeSantis as governor.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ugar-20181126/
As far as I know Putnam was the sugar baby. Big Sugar tried hard to stop DeSantis during the primary.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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As far as I know Putnam was the sugar baby. Big Sugar tried hard to stop DeSantis during the primary.
Didn't you read the article? It made a convincing case that Rick Scott also was Big Sugar's sugar baby.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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While Big Sugar was literally Rick Scott's sugar daddy, according to this article, things may change with DeSantis as governor.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...ugar-20181126/
Big Sugar bought and paid for Bill Nelson and MArco Rubio too, so its not party specific, its anyone in politics that can facilitate the goals they have for their business.
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:28 PM
 
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Didn't you read the article? It made a convincing case that Rick Scott also was Big Sugar's sugar baby.
Did I mention anything about Rick Scott?

I did vote for Scott though because as a senator I support most of the Republican agenda. DeSantis is the main one in charge of state issues though.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:19 PM
 
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Did I mention anything about Rick Scott?

I did vote for Scott though because as a senator I support most of the Republican agenda. DeSantis is the main one in charge of state issues though.
Why didn't you mention Rick Scott? He's now a U.S. senator capable of pushing for an end to the U.S. sugar import program which supports Big Sugar and its pollution of Florida waterways.

https://www.fas.usda.gov/programs/sugar-import-program

This federal sugar import program penalizes American food manufacturers and American consumers.

https://www.agweb.com/article/sugar-...ood-companies/

https://www.atr.org/sugar-policy-sweet-economy-a7127
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