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Old 11-10-2018, 01:59 AM
 
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Florida likely will remain one of the ever shrinking minority of states without Medicaid expansion. With a Democratic U.S. House of Representatives, it may become more financially painful for holdout states, typically granted exceptions and additional aid by Republicans. Florida likely will remain a laggard on environmental issues, even as Colorado becomes another state to aggressively pursue reduced fossil fuel consumption, even though it is a major producer state.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...latures-agenda

Four states adopted Medicaid expansion by voter initiative in the latest election. A voter initiative may take place in Florida in coming years, especially with the recent enfranchisement of over a million felons.

https://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files...lthreform1.png

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-b...pand-medicaid/

Florida's enfranchisement of felons may have a major impact on the 2020 Presidential election and the state office elections in 2022. It also will impact future local elections immediately.

Florida's passage of a constitutional amendment requiring legislative super-majorities to increase taxes or fees, likely means the state will be blocked from increasing spending on environmental, education, etc., barring state-wide voter initiatives. This super majority requirement also would complicate greatly any effort to expand Medicaid coverage in FL, even if mandated by voter initiative in the future. Such a mandate may require the legislature to cut other spending as an offset.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/...ext-_173397699

Additionally, a recession and/or higher fuel prices that would suppress Florida's important tourism industry, may cripple Florida's state finances and require massive spending cuts in the absence of the legislature's ability to adjust revenues even on a temporary basis. Florida's ongoing environmental degradation also may destroy increasing hunks of Florida's tourism industry and lessen the desirability of Florida as a residential/commercial destination.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Florida will turn from red to blue as us older folks die off..
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Old 11-10-2018, 05:09 AM
 
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The state has irrationally been trending purple for the past twenty years which seems to indicate a cycle of retiring red states types moving in to reinforce the under-educated Caucasian population, and for now off-setting what largely amounts to native born residents and Hispanics who identify more as blue. Perhaps when the "angry old white guys" population becomes less prevalent, but until then I wouldn't expect to see much difference.
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Old 11-10-2018, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Over the next 2-4 years, these elections will make Florida a state that lives by increasingly Conservative policy's.

We now have 2 Republican Senators instead of just 1, and we still have a Republican Govenor. Republicans still have comfortable control of the State House of 12-14 seats. Most of the ballot inititiaves went Conservative.

However, the demographics will continue to shift Blue. This period will be the last horrah for Conservatives in Florida. There are too many Libs who fiscally destroyed their home states comming here who will repeat the same fiscal destruction here. They are incapable of change. Detroit, and all the other bankrupted Lib cities, county's, and states, voted Democrat yet again last week. 5-10 years out Florida's fiscal destruction will become evident. High taxation will thwart migration to Florida, and the entire economy will begin to shrink. The death spiral will continue until it looks like Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut look today....broke and unable to pay pension obligations as promised. It will occur more rapidly here due to the lack of industry, IT, or any other economic foundation. Once the population begins to contract, its time to get out early while the getting is still good.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Florida will turn from red to blue as us older folks die off..
Already happening in TX as well.

If you told people in TX 20 years ago that Ted Cruz would scrape by in 2018 by a point or two, they would have laughed at you.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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Once the population begins to contract, its time to get out early while the getting is still good.
Where are they going to go? Hardcore red states like MS or KY? LMAO.

The GOP should have studied its autopsy report before allowing someone like Trump to hijack it:

https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.co...utopsy-report/
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:00 AM
 
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Over the next 2-4 years, these elections will make Florida a state that lives by increasingly Conservative policy's.

We now have 2 Republican Senators instead of just 1, and we still have a Republican Govenor. Republicans still have comfortable control of the State House of 12-14 seats. Most of the ballot inititiaves went Conservative.

However, the demographics will continue to shift Blue. This period will be the last horrah for Conservatives in Florida. There are too many Libs who fiscally destroyed their home states comming here who will repeat the same fiscal destruction here. They are incapable of change. Detroit, and all the other bankrupted Lib cities, county's, and states, voted Democrat yet again last week. 5-10 years out Florida's fiscal destruction will become evident. High taxation will thwart migration to Florida, and the entire economy will begin to shrink. The death spiral will continue until it looks like Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut look today....broke and unable to pay pension obligations as promised. It will occur more rapidly here due to the lack of industry, IT, or any other economic foundation. Once the population begins to contract, its time to get out early while the getting is still good.
Interesting though highly inaccurate spin. The reality is that states like Michigan, Illinois and Connecticut are "broke" because they receive disproportionate funding considering they pay into the federal tax system at much higher levels than the vast majority of Red States (over twice as much) and as a result receive far less back in federal funding thanks to the gap (30%-40%).

https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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All the Democrats fleeing the failed policies of their states are moving to Texas and Florida voting for the same type of politicians that caused them to move. So I expect Florifa to turn blue, I don’t know about 2-4 years though, maybe more like 5-10 years.
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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All the Democrats fleeing the failed policies of their states are moving to Texas and Florida voting for the same type of politicians that caused them to move. So I expect Florifa to turn blue, I don’t know about 2-4 years though, maybe more like 5-10 years.
I don't see Floridians voting on amendments to increase their taxes. They certainly don't want conservative friendly things like banning gay marriage, banning abortion access or enabling drilling off the coasts though.

It is fear mongering to state that fl turning blue will lead to an individual income tax which is prohibited in the constitution, although many right wingers will try to lie and insist otherwise
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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All the Democrats fleeing the failed policies of their states are moving to Texas and Florida voting for the same type of politicians that caused them to move.
What "failed policies" are you referring to?
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