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Old 12-02-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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The leap you have to make there, that almost all climatologists are complicit in the deception, is really astounding. The ones who are not getting paid are just betting on the come? It’s so ludicrous.

What would it take for you to change your opinion on this subject?

Nothing, unless Florida sees Cat 6 hurricanes consistently every year and my house is 30 ft under water by 2050.
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Nothing, unless Florida sees Cat 6 hurricanes consistently every year and my house is 30 ft under water by 2050.
And there you have it: Religion.

Reasonable people will take new information as it becomes available, analyze it, then modify their opinion as is warranted. Zealots will not. There is no point in discourse with zealots.
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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And there you have it....religion.

Reasonable people will take new information as it becomes available, analyze it, then modify their opinion as is warranted. Zealots will not. There is no point in discourse with zealots.

What in your opinion can Florida do to stop hurricanes and rising sea levels?


If the entire state of Florida banned the sale of beef. Would that stop cows from being slaughtered on a world scale? Nope.


If the entire state of Florida banned cars. Would that stop sea levels from rising and hurricanes from forming? Nope.


This is my point. We can make our environment cleaner, but instead of implying that we as a state have the direct power to decide whether hurricanes form and sea levels rise is fantasy.


The difference now is technology. Natural disasters have been around forever. Why some people think they only just started recently is because we now have the internet, phones that can take pictures/videos, platforms to share such things, etc. Some people think crime is at record highs, but really it's not. It's just we now have the things listed above.
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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You didnít show me a millionaire. You showed me a million dollar research project. Surely you understand the difference.

Iíll ask you again, under what circumstances would you change your opinion?
...oh please Elizabeth....$8 million to read a thermometer and write it down?...and $2 million directly paid for activism < PS....that's not research...Shirley you understand the difference LOL
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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What in your opinion can Florida do to stop hurricanes and rising sea levels?


If the entire state of Florida banned the sale of beef. Would that stop cows from being slaughtered on a world scale? Nope.


If the entire state of Florida banned cars. Would that stop sea levels from rising and hurricanes from forming? Nope.


This is my point. We can make our environment cleaner, but instead of implying that we as a state have the direct power to decide whether hurricanes form and sea levels rise is fantasy.


The difference now is technology. Natural disasters have been around forever. Why some people think they only just started recently is because we now have the internet, phones that can take pictures/videos, platforms to share such things, etc. Some people think crime is at record highs, but really it's not. It's just we now have the things listed above.
The most powerful thing any of us can do is to elect politicians who take the issue and the overwhelming scientific evidence seriously. We need elected officials who are committed to finding solutions, not going out of their way to accelerate man made climate change. You guys are doing the opposite.
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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And there you have it: Religion.

Reasonable people will take new information as it becomes available, analyze it, then modify their opinion as is warranted. Zealots will not. There is no point in discourse with zealots.
Finally you're right about something...

Believing in something that can't be seen, touched, proven....is the purest form of religion
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Old 12-02-2018, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Finally you're right about something...

Believing in something that can't be seen, touched, proven....is the purest form of religion
Do you think astrophysics is voodoo?


Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s not real.
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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The most powerful thing any of us can do is to elect politicians who take the issue and the overwhelming scientific evidence seriously. We need elected officials who are committed to finding solutions, not going out of their way to accelerate man made climate change. You guys are doing the opposite.
ok fine......what exactly can we...USA...do about it?

http://www.climatechangenews.com/fil...9ce65f3d-1.png
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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Do you think astrophysics is voodoo?


Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s not real.
You are the one that believes in something that can't be seen, touched, or proven

Obviously.....prove global warming is real then
Astrophysics has been trying for over 100 years.
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Old 12-02-2018, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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You are the one that believes in something that can't be seen, touched, or proven

Obviously.....prove global warming is real then
Astrophysics has been trying for over 100 years.
I donít think you understood what proof means.
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