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Old 12-01-2018, 05:23 AM
 
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Thank God we have people that actually listen to scientists and believe facts in places of power like Rick Scott and trump

Category 6? Scientists warn hurricanes could keep getting stronger

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Those records will all likely be broken again, as scientists say the "potential intensity" of storms — the theoretical maximum strength storms can achieve — is increasing. That means storms will get worse, a disastrous scenario for coastal states like Florida.

"The strongest storms are getting stronger — the science is clear on this," said Penn State University atmospheric science professor Michael Mann. "We can expect more intense hurricanes, greater flooding, worse storm surge which, combined with sea level rise, presents an existential threat to the Florida coastline."

What's raising the ceiling? A familiar culprit, and a surprising one.

The first is global warming from greenhouse gas emissions.

Hurricanes feed off warm water. A warming planet means warmer oceans.

"The linkage there is very, very simple and direct," said National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration research scientist Jim Kossin.

The other is more counterintuitive: clean air. Normally a bad thing, air pollution does prevents sunlight from reaching the ocean, which tamps down sea surface temperatures just enough to reduce the hurricane threat. Since congress passed clean air legislation in the 1960s and 70s, pollutant levels have dropped, allowing more solar energy to hit the oceans.

The pair is a perfect storm for potential intensity.

"In terms of our immediate future, like this century, it will just continue to increase," Kossin said.

It's already happening. More storms are packing winds that are literally off the charts. Scientists put storms into categories based on their wind speeds. Category 5, the highest, includes all storms with wind at least 157 mph. Category 6, which doesn't exist, would theoretically begin at 195 mph, Kossin said. Pacific Ocean typhoons Haiyan and Meranti, in 2012 and 2016, respectively, both had winds that sustained 195 mph. Hurricane Patricia, which formed in 2015 off the Pacific coast of Mexico, achieved sustained winds of 215 mph.

Category 7 would begin at 230 mph, according to Kossin.

Mann has advocated for a formalization of higher wind categories. Some scientists are reluctant out of fear that it sends the message that lower-rated storms, though still deadly, can be dismissed.

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Old 12-01-2018, 07:19 AM
 
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Thank God we have people that actually listen to scientists and believe facts in places of power like Rick Scott and trump

Category 6? Scientists warn hurricanes could keep getting stronger
You posted an article from a news paper......that even the person writing the article ends it with..

"That hasn't yet panned out."...LOL

Graphs are great...you can cherry pick any time...and claim just about anything

https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.o...eintensity.png
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: US
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Storms in florida have calmed down compared to before. I think it’s good to adopt recycling and being green for keeping the environment clean. But honestly anyone who thinks saying “climate change is real” in florida will make the difference of constant monster storms vs no storms ever is living a fantasy. You could eliminate all the cars in florida and it wont make a difference to florida hurricanes. Emerging countries are the ones that really need to change. However, i still support green efforts for simply keeping our environment clean.
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Old 12-01-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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"as scientists say the "potential intensity" of storms — the theoretical maximum strength storms can achieve — is increasing."

No it is not.....cyclone intensity is measured by ACE...Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) index

Global ACE has not changed...and actually decreased since 1990...at the time global warming theory says it should have increased the most

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgXxOPV0AAn-IH.jpg

North Atlantic tropical cyclone ACE...which affects Florida..... has remained exactly the same since 1950...when global warming theory says it should have greatly increased....and increased the most

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring...T_ace_2017.png
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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... people that actually listen to scientists
Who?

Every human, arrogant and narcissistic, has an agenda, so-called scientists are no exception.

Yes, water boils at 212 F almost everywhere on earth, time and time again.

But if you can't repeatedly observe a phenomenon, it ain't science. It's something else.

In any case, chances are that humans adapt to environment long before environment adapts to humans.
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Who?

Every human, arrogant and narcissistic, has an agenda, so-called scientists are no exception.

Yes, water boils at 212 F almost everywhere on earth, time and time again.

But if you can't repeatedly observe a phenomenon, it ain't science. It's something else.

In any case, chances are that humans adapt to environment long before environment adapts to humans.


Precisely said and exactly correct. The problem with scientists who disagree with the alleged enormity of climate change, are human *enough* to become intimidated by leftist conventional wisdom in fear of losing research money etc, or afraid of being passed over for another position or grant if they are judged to be not quite in the box for leftist environmentalists who are in a position to screw or ostracize their fellow scientists. Group think is rampant in the scientific and medical community. Many scientists fear being unduly labeled as a "denier", so their divergence of opinion is thereby silenced or muted in many many forums and publications.
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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No one is going to give them one penny...to say everything is normal

...a bunch of glorified weathermen...that figured out how to tap in to the grant money

"Many scientists fear being unduly labeled as a "denier""....just like religions labeled people "heretics"...hunted them down and prosecuted them
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: FL
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2018 Is Shaping Up to Be the Fourth-Hottest Year on record, The FL panhandle just got hit with a rare,late season cat 4,Miami Beach already floods with every high tide,CA wild fires are attributed to global warming,we need to move away from fossil fuels and move towards Green,renewable energy wich will create millions of good paying jobs and help the planet at the same time, but most people don't care enough to change the way they live over climate change...

Renewable Energy Industry Creates Jobs 12 Times Faster Than Rest of US | Fortune
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:53 AM
 
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just when people were worried about water rights and water shortages, when earth decides to help out and give you enough water for a year, you guys complain
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Don't feed the "Alarmists" of the Church of the Warming Planet!
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