U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
 
Old 05-24-2019, 03:13 PM
 
14 posts, read 3,179 times
Reputation: 10

Advertisements

Hello. I am sorry for a stupid question, but I am from Poland and I do not know the criminal law in Florida.

Why can many years pass from the adjudication of the death sentence to the enforcement of the sentence?

For example, Ted Bundy in 1979 and 1980 received two death sentences, and the death penalty was carried out only in 1989.
Since the evidence of guilt is so strong that you can condemn him to death on their basis, then why should the execution of punishment be postponed for many years?
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-24-2019, 03:22 PM
 
2,286 posts, read 1,570,410 times
Reputation: 3010
Lawyers need to make $$$$$$$$
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2019, 04:52 PM
 
2,497 posts, read 1,423,359 times
Reputation: 5192
Quote:
Originally Posted by DANIEL1990PL View Post
Hello. I am sorry for a stupid question, but I am from Poland and I do not know the criminal law in Florida.

Why can many years pass from the adjudication of the death sentence to the enforcement of the sentence?

For example, Ted Bundy in 1979 and 1980 received two death sentences, and the death penalty was carried out only in 1989.
Since the evidence of guilt is so strong that you can condemn him to death on their basis, then why should the execution of punishment be postponed for many years?
There have been innocent people killed with capital punishment or released after being proven innocent. All these people spent years on death row.

The system isn't perfect, local police and judges can be corrupt (rare but it does happen), evidence collection and practices have change a lot and sometimes people get caught in the middle of that and suffer for years on death row or in prison falsely. There was a time when a neighbor could call you a witch to the priest and you'd be burned at the stake if they didn't like you. Pretty low bar to get someone killed. While it is different today, there have been people exonerated by DNA evidence after sitting in prison for decades or had witness testimony recanted etc. Lots of really weird **** happens in the legal system and you can quite easily get caught up by a couple of bad witnesses.

So while Bundy might be an example of "put a bullet in his head and be done with it" that line gets more and more blur'd as you start going through different crimes. Then after a few decades eventually the line is so blurred some innocent guy gets the fast lane death sentence and everyone is like "well glad that wasn't me! Sorry!"

Which is why these sentences are carried out equally and take a lot of time. The state basically murdering someone should be an incredibly high threshold. Perhaps not even allowed since we obviously can't get it right all the time even with waiting decades before killing someone.

One final thing, the death penalty is not a deterrent. It is retribution. People don't stop committing crimes because the law tells them it is wrong.

Last edited by aridon; 05-24-2019 at 05:01 PM..
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
6,860 posts, read 9,279,877 times
Reputation: 6565
Back in the 'Gunsmoke' days, horse thieves and murderers were hung within a week. Now it takes a mass murderer 35 years of appeals to get 'the needle'.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
5,882 posts, read 2,732,034 times
Reputation: 7095
Why does it matter how long it takes? The Death Penalty is not a deterrent and is basically "revenge justice".
It doesn't accomplish anything.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2019, 07:02 AM
 
14 posts, read 3,179 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by d4g4m View Post
'the needle'
Is this an American idiom? I don't understand the sense of this statement.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobdreamz View Post
Why does it matter how long it takes? The Death Penalty is not a deterrent and is basically "revenge justice".
It doesn't accomplish anything.
Unfortunately, but in Poland the death penalty was abolished in 1998.
There are cases that the murderer is released from prison after 25 years, and the services of the munur must control him so that he does not threaten the public. Or without a court order, they lock him up in the psychiatric institution for the rest of his life.
The death penalty is not only intended to deter, but also to eliminate psychopaths and bandits from society so that they do not threaten anyone. If someone gets a life sentence, he can still murder in prison, and nothing can be done to him.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2019, 08:08 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
6,600 posts, read 10,664,793 times
Reputation: 5755
Quote:
Originally Posted by DANIEL1990PL View Post
Is this an American idiom? I don't understand the sense of this statement.
The "needle" refers to lethal injection, the latest newfangled method of executing the death sentence by some inexplicable, complicated-to-produce, highly expensive, hard-to-predict, nasty chemical concoction.

Firing squad was much more effective, economical, and humane (as far as death sentence can be considered humane).

But we have "science" in all its humanity.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-25-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Inland FL
1,246 posts, read 716,998 times
Reputation: 2179
Why not use the stuff they give animals to put them to sleep? Don't need electric chair, don't need anything like from the Green Mile to happen.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-26-2019, 09:20 AM
 
14 posts, read 3,179 times
Reputation: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by bale002 View Post
The "needle" refers to lethal injection, the latest newfangled method of executing the death sentence by some inexplicable, complicated-to-produce, highly expensive, hard-to-predict, nasty chemical concoction.

Firing squad was much more effective, economical, and humane (as far as death sentence can be considered humane).

But we have "science" in all its humanity.

In Poland, the gallows worked well for many years. I think that this is a simple, cheap and "humane" method of executing the death penalty.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-28-2019, 03:30 PM
 
6,250 posts, read 3,445,382 times
Reputation: 5673
Quote:
Originally Posted by floridarebel View Post
Why not use the stuff they give animals to put them to sleep? Don't need electric chair, don't need anything like from the Green Mile to happen.
Thatís what they were using, but it wasnít effective (or effectively administered) in a few cases so the lawsuits started about it being cruel and unusual punishment.
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Florida
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top